Welcome to Faith Happens, Home for S. Douglas Woodward

Faith-Happens is the web site for S. Douglas Woodward, author of eight books including BLOOD MOON, LYING WONDERS OF THE RED PLANETPOWER QUEST — BOOKS ONE & TWO, and co-authoring THE FINAL BABYLON: America and the Coming of Antichrist with Douglas W. Krieger and Dene McGriff, co-editors of The-Tribulation-Network.com.  Doug’s books focus on Bible prophecy, the apocalypse, alternative history, the history of doomsday,  and hot apocalyptic topics.  Woodward also has written extensively on the impact of spiritualism and occult ideologies in American history.

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129 Responses to Welcome to Faith Happens, Home for S. Douglas Woodward

  1. James says:

    Mr. Woodward, I am listening to your interview with Mr Wiles about the Catching Away of the Body of Christ. This is a short article about the difference between the “Day of the Lord” and the “Day of Christ” or the “Day of the Lord Jesus Christ” as taught by the Apostle Paul? You might take a minute. I think you line up with some of these teachings? God Bless, James….. http://doctrine.org/the-day-of-christ/

  2. William G. Poelstra says:

    I have been inspired by current (3/24/14) events to review Ezekiel and Revelation. At the time of the end the land of Israel will be invaded twice. In Ezekiel 38:3 we read about Gog and Magog. Gog is Russia and in verse 6 Gomer is Turkey and Togarmah is the Ukraine. These and others (Islamic nations) allied with them, will be destroyed. Anti-semitism is rampant in Turkey and the Ukraine today, and it should be noted that a longitude line passes through Russia, the Ukraine, Crimea, and Turkey, all directly north of Israel. In Ezekiel 38 : 13 it is believed that Tarshish refers to Spain, or possibly France and England.

    The other invasion of Israel will be at the time of Armageddon when the forces that established the one-world government will turn against it. The three frogs of Rev 16: 13,14 will go out to the kings of the Earth to gather them to fight at Armageddon. Also Egypt and Syria will contribute to the conflict(Daniel 11:40) Here Israel is just the location of the battlefield.

    After the divine destruction of Gog et al Israel will spend seven years cleaning up the mess. Conventional hermeneutics has it that this episode of Gog will occur during the first 3.5 years of the Tribulation when Israel is at peace. I, however, disagree since the seven years of clean – up, Eze 39: 9,12 would extend into the Millennium. It should be noted that the Antichrist has nothing to do with the battles of Gog. It would be better to believe that the battle would occur before the Tribulation, perhaps near the beginning of the post Rapture era – a time of peace just after the Antichrist has been released while he is establishing himself. The actions of Gog will be confined to the Middle East whereas the Antichrist will come out of the USA (when properlly interpreted, using wisdom and Greek gematria, 666 = ex USA = out of the USA) . It is reasonable to believe that during the world’s attention to Gog, the Antichrist could appear in the USA unnoticed.

    Experimental evidence, Gog’s recent advance into Crimea toward Israel, indicates that the events of Ezekiel 38 have begun: it should be noted that this move is not just one of many that have occurred throughout history, but it has happened since the restoration of Israel as a sovereign nation in 1948; i.e. in the eschatological era – this is further reason to assert that these events will not occur during the tribulation – they are happening now. The reference to Tarshish in Eze 38:13 may refer to efforts by the EU and UN to discourage the scheming of Gog. I doubt that Putin is motivated by designs on Israel, but Gog ‘s allies may perceive his actions to be an opportunity to attack Israel, and invoke treaties with Russia to engage the latter’s help. Certainly it would seem that if the government of Egypt falls to the Islamic Brotherhood, Egypt will join the attack as will Syria, being armed to the teeth, the two warring factions there consolidating to fight the common enemy; however Ezekiel mentions neither Egypt nor Syria so they will be preserved for destruction at Armageddon (Daniel ibidem). When the battle starts the Rapture will occur – if for no other reason than to release the Antichrist during the global turmoil provoked by Gog’s activity . It would seem then that the Rapture is very near – not near enough to suit me – depending upon when the Moslems realize that with Putin’s help they can eliminate Israel for ever. Amen!

    ADDENDUM (3/12/2014) The collapse of the Iraq government in favor of the Islamic State of iraq and Syria may very well provoke a destabilization in the area that will accelerate the scenerio presented above.

    Background material obtained from: Tim LaHaye’s Prophecy Study Bible.

  3. Doug Krieger says:

    Daniel – I would like to commend you in your observation regarding the characteristics of the Philadelphia Church’s “historical” expression in reference to America; furthermore, we might take that another step forward (for AFTER Philadelphia comes Laodicea – i.e., the Church in Laodicea); and, of course, there is no question that today’s “American Church” given its excessive predisposition to all things apostate, “emergent”, “have need of nothing” and not knowing they are poor, wretched, miserable, blind and naked . . . even so, it appears that Philadelphia is THERE, no doubt, but the golden lampstand that is Laodicea befits the condition of the Western Church, especially that of America, to the “T” -

    Now, as most of our readers and those bold enough, as yourself, to make comments in reference to THE FINAL BABYLON and see in her finality the silhouette of her whose cup was once golden in the hand of the Lord but which has now become full of putridities (aka “abominations”) – what shall we then do?

    To many who embrace the Blessed Hope as the secret, pre-tribulational rapture of the Church, there is not much we can do aside from “keep looking up” for “our redemption draws nigh” or, as Brenda has said: PREPARE FOR TAKE OFF!

    However, I would like to present the contrarian perspective here – in that, as most of you may already know, Doug Woodward and Doug Krieger concur on the identity of the Final Babylon but not on how the final week of Daniel’s 70th plays out. If one embraces the pre-tribulational rapture of the Church, one must as Dr. Gerald Stanton of the PreTribResearchCenter has recently said:

    “The Rapture is signless, and will be unannounced and largely unexpected. It is next on the revealed program of God, and is so presented in the Scripture that every generation may enjoy the hope, challenge and other blessings of His appearing. We are all exhorted to watch but no one can know the day nor the hour when the Bridegroom will come (Matt. 25:13).” (The Doctrine of Imminency…Is It Biblical?, Dr. Gerald Stanton, PreTribResearchCenter, 2014)

    Notwithstanding Dr. Stanton’s interpretation, I w0uld ask the question: Is not Israel’s rebirth and the en-gathering of the exiles in UNBELIEF (as Dr. Tommy Ice declares) one of the foremost SIGNS of the “end of the age?” Or is Israel, as the current president of Dallas Theological Seminary, Dr. Mark Bailey, has recently suggested, nothing more than a “prophetic possibility” or his precise words regarding Israel’s immediate materiality (even in unbelief): “I don’t know what that means?” This was followed by Dr. Bailey’s injunctions: Christians should not politically support Israel.

    Indeed, we might also consider this: If the pre-tribulational rapture is a signless event then how can the Church in Philadelphia be the church that is destined for the pre-trib rapture in that it would be mandatory for it to be on the earth prior to any secret pre-trib rapture and, furthermore, the Laodicean Church which most definitely constitutes the antithesis of Philadelphia as an historic fulfillment (as well). In other words, both of these “historic churches” must needs be historic in order for them to “escape the hour of trial which is to try the whole earth,” etc. but this would be impossible if the SIGN of such a Church would not be on the Earth in preparation for the secret pre-trib rapture of the same.

    Furthermore, and it would appear, according to other pre-trib theologians like Dr. Arno Fruchtenbaum, that we are currently living in the reality of Matthew 24:6-8 known as the “beginning of sorrows” or the “birth pangs of the Messiah.” Therefore, is not this, as well, another SIGN of the coming “tribulation period”? Israel is a sign of the coming of “Jacob’s Trouble” – both the Church in Philadelphia and Laodicea constitute additional SIGNS of the pending rapture of the Church.

    Again, if the secret-pretribulational rapture of the Church is such a SIGN-LESS event, then why are we so enamored with any of these supposed SIGNS – or are these SIGNS simply inconsequential, irrelevant, peripheral, only significant to National Israel, having nothing whatsoever to do with the Church; although Philadelphia and Laodicea’s “historical implications” appear to constitute “SIGNS OF THE TIME”? This then raises the entire issue raised by Jesus Himself that we are enjoined to DISCERN THE SIGNS OF THE TIMES.

    My question I think is “objectively valid.” How can the secret-pretribulational rapture of the Church be a SIGN-LESS EVENT, as Dr. Stanton and many other eschatologists proclaim when the aforementioned, and many other such prophetically fulfilled and fulfilling events stand out as glaring SIGNS? In particular, either Israel is or is not the fulfillment of Bible Prophecy. Dr. Tommy Ice who is the Executive Director of the PreTribRaptureCenter (where Dr. Stanton’s articles on the pre-trib rapture appear) after his disclosure of Dr. Mark Bailey’s proclamation on Israel’s “ambiguous prophetic appearance” (i.e., “I don’t know what that means.”) said this:

    ““Israel will be gathered in unbelief, before the tribulation in order that God may complete His plan for National Israel. The current nation of Israel is the beginning of fulfillment of just such prophecy. Modern Israel is the result of God’s direct intervention in history. I believe that those who speak contrary to this will be found to be fighting God.”

    It appears that Dr. Ice’s comments are directed at Dr. Mark Bailey: “I believe that those who speak contrary to this will be found to be fighting God.”

    Are we witnessing MAJOR FISSURES within the “pre-trib persuasion?” It is the conviction of this author (Doug Krieger) that Israel’s rebirth as a nation state is fast becoming the major SIGN of the pending “tribulation” ipso facto Israel is the greatest SIGN of the Second Coming of Jesus Christ which is preceded by the 70th Week of Daniel which in turn is preceded in the theology of the pre-tribbers, the pre-trib rapture; therefore, by the standard methods of logic the materiality of the State of Israel constitutes the MAJOR SIGN of the coming of the Son of Man for the Church – ipso facto, the so-called pre-trib rapture is NOT a signless event!!

    Since the secret-pretrib rapture is NOT a sign-less event the entire “house of the imminent return of Christ” (aka the “doctrine of imminency”) to the Earth “FOR the saints” is built on a false premise; i.e., the “any moment” return of Christ to the earth.

    Rick Warren’s deprecation that they who study Bible prophecy are “wasting their time” and are, worse “arrogant” because “No man knows the day nor the hour, nor the Son, but only My Father” has caused a great deal of confusion and dismay among those who “anxiously await the Son of Man.”

    First of all, the phrase “nor the Son” does NOT appear in the Greek text of the major manuscripts nor the Greek Interlinear–nor in the KJV, nor in the Darby Version (an avowed Dispensationalist). Likewise, the “KNOW” and “DAY” found in Matthew 24 is directly found in context of the judgment associated with Noah. Noah’s generation did not KNOW the DAY…”until the DAY that Noah entered the ark…and did not KNOW until the flood came” (Matthew 24:38-39).

    Do you think for one minute that the Son of Man does not know when when He is coming for the Church? “He that has seen Me has seen the Father!” “In Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily.” The Father and the Son are INTIMATELY aware of the coming again of the Son of Man, trust me on that one. Rick Warren’s superficial understanding of “nor the Son” fits into his world-view – don’t be deceived by his “twisting of the Scripture.”

    Furthermore, Jesus used the DAYS of Noah to highlight the ATTITUDE of those of Noah’s generation who did NOT KNOW THE DAY because they were not WATCHING – and, by the way, Noah KNEW precisely the DAY: “Then the LORD said to Noah, ‘Come into the ark, you and all your household . . . for after SEVEN MORE DAYS will cause it to rain on the earth forty days and forty nights, and I will destroy from the face of the earth all living things that I have made.” (Genesis 7:1-4)

    Could it be that these SEVEN DAYS mirror and/or are a “type” of the 70TH WEEK of Daniel’s Prophecy yet to be fulfilled–i.e., spoken of as “one seven-day time frame” or “week” but constituting 7 years? I simply bring this incredible “discovery” to our attention – the ALMIGHTY spared Noah and his family and gave them those 7 days to get into the ark – they did NOT endure God’s wrath upon the Earth–that’s the key that both pre-trib and post-trib agree upon. However, the 7 days notification was obvious and the SIGN was the very building of the ark itself.

    Was Noah’s generation watchful or did God’s wrath come upon them as a THIEF IN THE NIGHT? Absolutely as a THIEF, but to those of us who are WATCHING and LOVING HIS APPEARING, He will not come as a thief, and we who know Him will know that the Bridegroom is coming for us and we will be ready!

    Therefore, brothers and sisters, remember this: The BLESSED HOPE is the glorious appearing of the Great God and our Savior Jesus Christ. It is JESUS CHRIST, He is our Blessed Hope. God has given us the SIGNS OF THE TIME and has enjoined us to DISCERN THE SIGNS OF THE TIME – Israel, the birth pangs of the Messiah, the condition of both the Philadelphian and the Laodicean churches are present at the time of His Coming in Glory.

    If we are enjoined to “endure unto the end” – if the Church uses the parables of readiness found in Matthew 24:36-51 and Matthew 25 – how can we use them if they do not refer to ourselves – were these parables of watchfulness (one taken the other left behind, etc.); walk (10 virgins); talents (dealing with our service to the Lord) . . . are all these parables given to NATIONAL ISRAEL or to the Church? The strict dispensationalist says they were written to National Israel and that the object of their encouragement does not involve the Church . . . will someone be bold enough to justify their use to this brother and re-direct them to National Israel only and NOT as “nice things to know” to the Church?

    Yes, we are “not destined to wrath” – that is, we are through the blood of Jesus Christ made perfect in Him and are no longer under the “judicial wrath” of the Almighty but have been pardoned from the prison-house wherein we were held captive prior to finding Christ as our Savior and our acceptance of His pardon! But this has NOTHING to do with the pending WRATH OF GOD and THE LAMB which is relative to the final judgment upon the Earth, as was the case in Noah’s days.

    The Bible in the Revelation speaks clearly regarding the “short time” and the “devil’s great wrath” which endures for 42 months (Rev. 13) under the “administration” of the “beast.” I posit the question: Can the Wrath of the Lamb and the “Devil’s Great Wrath” (wherein he, the beast, is given authority over all the earth for 42 months) be considered conflated, simultaneous, at the same time? I don’t think so – it is not until the final pouring out the 7th Vial that Babylon’s tripartite judgment is rendered in Revelation 16 at the very conclusion of the WRATH OF THE LAMB – the SEVEN-FOLD TRUMPET and the SEVEN VIALS commence in Revelation 8 and the opening of the 7th Seal – this commences the very WRATH OF GOD and THE LAMB and must needs occur at the terminus of the Devil’s Great Wrath.

    It is imperative that the Church, as Corrie ten Boom has enjoined us, realize that we are being prepared for “tribulation” but that we are in “training” for the WORD OF GOD and THE TESTIMONY OF JESUS CHRIST. Jesus’ TESTIMONY reached its zenith when He entered Jerusalem on Palm Sunday and gave relentless testimony, knowing full-well it would cost Him everything – but He was “cut off” BUT NOT FOR HIMSELF (Daniel 9:26). He went to the cross for His Bride – are we willing to lay down our lives for the brethren – and who is sufficient for these things? Only by the grace that is in Christ can we bear such a testimony as Corrie did or as Jim Elliott did or as virtually all the Apostles did! Brethren – please pray and reconsider these vitally important matters of “witness and testimony” before the Lord.

    God Bless,

    Doug Krieger

    • Woodward says:

      My brother is most eloquent and is almost infinitely patient and long-suffering to write such a thoughtful epistle to my readers! We do disagree of course and I believe that the period of God’s wrath upon the earth, while connected directly to the Day of the Lord, is for a longer period… to my mind an undisclosed period… We disagree on the interpretation of 1 Thessalonians 5:1-9. I will focus on this passage.

      I believe the context is eminently clear that we are NOT dealing with judicial wrath against the individual, but we are dealing with the wrath of God to be poured out in the last days against an unbelieving word, but especially against Babylon, the children of the night, aka those who carry the Mark of the Beast. Verse 1 states we are dealing with ‘the times and the seasons’ and Paul states that they have no need since they have already been taught, however, he will reinforce what he has previously taught them in person. Verse 2 states we are talking about ‘the day of the Lord’. Verse 3 ‘the sudden destruction’ that comes upon those who are children of the night… not the children of the day. Therefore, the wrath is directed at the children of the night. Verse 4 through 7 discuss the distinction of the two peoples… different peoples… those who are children of the day are addressed in Verse 8 are admonished to put on the helmet of salvation, knowing that they are saved and should in no wise be doubting this. Why? Verse 9 tells us, “For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.” To suggest this verse is dealing with judicial wrath is to suppose that the argument has shifted from ‘the day of the Lord’ to the Lake of Fire, the destiny of those who are children of the night, but obviously, at least 1,000 years distant.

      Verse 9 is the culminating verse that communicates we will NOT experience the wrath which is directed at the children of the night, those who are not sober, who are not watching, who are apt to be caught unawares and experienced sudden destruction. The children of the day are sober and do watch. They will NOT experience the wrath of God for they are not appointed to wrath which is slated for the day of the Lord (the context of this passage). This does not mean that they will not be subject to the devil’s wrath. They have been and if God allows them to remain on earth during some portion of the Tribulation (perhaps most of it as my brother Doug Krieger asserts), they will be persecuted and many will be martyred. Doug Krieger asserts that the wrath of Satan and the wrath of the Lamb are distinct. I believe this is likely to be so and that the wrath of God follows the wrath of Satan. Exactly when one ends and the other begins I cannot be certain. However, it seems clear that the Wrath of God, which I believe the Church is excluded from, takes place in the second half of the Tribulation (aka the Great Tribulation). This does now mean that I believe in a mid-tribulation rapture. The rapture of the Church, could happen at any time. This means that it could happen prior to the beginning of the Tribulation period. Is Daniel’s 70th week the same as the Tribulation? I do not believe that the two need be perfectly synonymous. I believe it is perfectly clear, however, that the time of ‘greatest tribulation’ is AFTER the man of sin is revealed and that the wrath of God as described in revelation, beginning with the sixth seal (the great earthquake) is the starting point for that wrath. Therefore, I agree with David Lowe that the first five seals happen before God’s wrath is poured out (I do not see the first four seals as God’s wrath… but general conditions that prevail upon the earth prior to the time when God’s wrath begins).

      So will the children of the day experience the wrath of Satan? Yes. But this passage is discussing the wrath of God. And, plainly, the entire passage is dealing with ‘the day of the Lord’. Is it possible that we will be preserved through the wrath of God and be protected from it? Yes. But the traditional view is that those who are sealed by God and stand against Satan successfully (and are not harmed by Satan) prevail up to the time of the revealing of the Antichrist. But the principal of God separating the godly from the ungodly and placing them apart (like Enoch who was ‘raptured’) or within a safe confine for preservation (like Noah and his family) or removing them from wrath (such as Lot and his family who escaped Sodom and Gomorrah’s judgment) is a scriptural principle that I find compelling and directly applicable to the day of the Lord and the righteous, the children of the Day, being separated from it entirely.

      The question for me is, When do the specific actions of God, His wrath, break forth? It seems clear that it is related to the ‘day of the Lord.’ How long is this and when will it begin? We know that the Day of the Lord cannot begin until the man of sin is revealed and that which restrains his appearance is taken away or removed. That is the centerpiece of the debate. Is this the Holy Spirit? The believers otherwise known as the Church? That is classic dispensational teaching and that is the teaching to which I adhere.

      Notwithstanding there are challenges to this teaching and my good brother Doug Krieger is most adroit at pointing those out. He does his very best at trying to reconcile the challenges but does so by assuming that the Day of the Lord does not occur until the very very end of the Great Tribulation (30 days prior to the return of Jesus Christ to the world when ‘every eye shall see him.’

      However, I prefer to remain in the camp of dispensationalism until I find scriptural reasons to reject those teachings that have served me well for my six decades upon this earth. Where we strongly AGREE is that the destruction of Babylon happens toward the latter portion of the Great Tribulation. We do not believe that America will be destroyed or dismantled prior to Daniel’s 70th week. We believe it is the essential character that the wrath of God is directed against. Religious Babylon, centered around the Vatican, is a portion of Babylon. But the economic and political/military Babylon, we believe is America. The Beast himself with his kings will turn against Babylon and burn her with fire. Is this just religious Babylon or is it also the nation-state which focuses the power of Babylon? Of not, I am not yet sure at this moment in time.

      I hope this lengthy response and discussion is helpful to my audience.

  4. Daniel says:

    To: S. Douglas Woodward

    Re: Possible Reference to America in Revelation 3

    I bought your book The Final Babylon: America and the Coming of Antichrist several months ago for my father, who has been deeply impacted by this book and has come to a much better appreciation and understanding of Bible prophecy through this resource.

    The question of where America fits in the prophetic scenario has so confused the leading prophecy scholars of our day that it has been a major reason that the prophetic scenarios of the Bible have not been accepted by more people. After all, if America is not in Bible prophecy, then it is hard to picture the events of Revelation, Daniel, and the other prophetic passages of Scripture happening in our generation, since America is such a powerful force in the contemporary world.

    I completely agree with your assertion that contrary to an unexplained silence, the Bible actually has many references to the United States of America, chief among them Jeremiah 50-51 and Revelation 18. I often discerned from reading these passages that they might be speaking of the U.S., yet the consistent opposition to this possibility made me doubt whether I was right on this. Thanks to your study, I now am confident that the U.S. plays a major role in the end time scenario and that the coming of the Lord is all the more imminent for our generation!

    Page 21 of The Final Babylon mentions that you adhere to the pretribulational view of the Rapture, which I also agree with. The Bible seems to be very clear that true believers in Jesus Christ will not be on earth during the Great Tribulation, since this period of suffering is a judgment on the world for the rejection of the Savior.

    I have noticed an interesting possibility in Revelation 3 that defends the pretribulational Rapture and may also be a direct reference to the United States of the last days, which I would like to share with you.

    In the passage directed to the Church of Philadelphia, we read:

    7 “And to the angel of the church in Philadelphia write: ‘These things saith He that is holy, He that is true, He that hath the key of David, He that openeth and no man shutteth, and shutteth and no man openeth:
    8 I know thy works. Behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it. For thou hast a little strength, and hast kept My Word, and hast not denied My name.
    9 Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, who say they are Jews and are not, but do lie — behold, I will make them to come and worship at thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.
    10 Because thou hast kept the word of My patience, I will also keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come upon all the world to try them that dwell upon the earth.
    11 Behold, I come quickly; hold fast that which thou hast, that no man take thy crown.
    12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of My God, and he shall go out no more; and I will write upon him the name of My God, and the name of the city of My God, which is New Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from My God, and I will write upon him My new name.
    13 He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches!’

    Revelation 3:7-13

    The key verse of this passage is verse 10, which is promising believers exemption from the Great Tribulation and is one of the main passages that pretribulationists like me use to bolster our argument.

    However, there is another possible application in this letter to the Philadelphian church that directly concerns your thesis about America in prophecy.

    A good number of Bible scholars believe that the Seven Churches picture historical time periods in church history, extending from apostolic times to the return of Christ, though not negating their practical significance to literal local churches of the First Century. According to this argument, the Ephesus church represents the First Century believers, Smyrna the church under persecution of imperial Rome, Pergamon and Thyatira the compromised church of the Middle Ages, Sardis the dead Protestant churches, Philadelphia the active missionary movements of the last days, and Laodecia the lukewarm Christianity that is most prominent in our day. Thus, we should look for applications of the Seven Churches throughout church history, rather than merely the original recipients in what is today Turkey.

    “Philadelphia” is interesting since several cities in history have borne this name, but it is most famously associated with the United States, since both the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution were penned in this city! It was the capital of the U.S. for a time and could arguably be considered the birthplace of the American system of governance that has swept across the world in the past two centuries. One wonders, could the “church in Philadelphia” be saying rather literally “the church in America”?

    Many times in Scripture, nations are referred to be their capital or most prominent city (Jerusalem for Israel, Damascus for Syria, etc.), and this could be such a case!
    There are several other reasons for believing that the church addressed here are the true believers in the U.S. Consider:

    • It has an open door. While the United States has had many failures and may not be as much of a Christian nation as some evangelicals today would like to believe, as you explained well in The Final Babylon, the fact remains that the freedom of religion guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution, coupled with relative financial prosperity, has given American Christians an unparalleled opportunity to fulfill the Great Commission. While the church has been lagging in recent years, as apostasy creeps in, during much of the Nineteenth and Twentieth Centuries, the influence of American Christianity in the spread of the gospel is undeniable.

    • This church has a little strength. True believers in America have never been powerful; they have never had the backing of civil authorities as in some Catholic countries, for example. Yet there has been a notable number of Christians in America that have used the resources that they do have to do great things for God.

    • This church is challenged to deny the name of the Lord. This is a good description of Christianity while America has been a nation. American Christians have had to combat evolutionism, humanism, and New Age doctrines that all deny the Lord.

    • This church dwells among many counterfeit believers. America has many true Christians, but many more pretenders! Probably only a small percentage of those that claim the name of Christ in America are really believers, and this is what is pictured here. Also, it particularly talks of those that claim Judaism and yet do not follow God. America, more than any other nation, has large numbers of Jews that are Hebrew by birth but are thoroughly liberal, rejecting the Old Testament commandments.

    • They will be kept from the Tribulation. This means that this church will be on earth until the Rapture! This would fit America, since the Scriptures (Jeremiah 50-51, Revelation 18, etc.), seem to explain the existence of the U.S. even during the Great Tribulation hour.

    I wish to make it clear that I do not believe that all churches in America are Philadelphia; on the contrary, the lukewarm Laodecian movement better characterizes the majority of American Christendom. Yet it is undeniable that America has produced many great saints of God (D.L. Moody, Billy Sunday, Billy Graham, etc.), that have impacted their world and have devoted their whole lives to the message of the Gospel, and it is that remnant that Christ might be describing in the Philadelphia church.

    It is notable that the Philadelphia letter does not mean a bright future for America as a nation, only the believers therein!

    I am not dogmatic about connecting Philadelphia with America, but I do think it is an interesting possibility.

    May the Lord bless you and keep you!

    In Christ,
    Daniel

  5. D.J. Konrad says:

    I just watched a YouTube PITN video featuring Doug Woodward. He talked about his terrific book, “The Final Babylon.” At the end of his presentation, he called his two co-authors to join him at the lectern to answer questions..

    The subject being the prophecied demise of America, Doug’s co-author (Dene) made the comment implying that maybe we could reverse this path before it’s too late…

    I don’t understand how anyone could think that the prophecy could be somehow aborted — that maybe there’s a chance it’s not too late….It’s already etched in stone in The Holy Word!!!!! Has any prophecy in the Bible ever been “reversed”?

    “So it is written , so it shall be done!”

    • Woodward says:

      Hey D.J. Thanks for your comment. I think we would all like to believe that God’s warnings of judgment are all ‘reversible’ but they aren’t. However, they are ‘delayable’. We saw this with Jonah’s prophesying to Nineveh. We saw it with Hezekiah and the God granting him a ‘life extension’ of 20 years (if memory serves).

      I believe that there are too many providential signs that are coming to pass to believe that any delay is possible. AT this time, my co-authors and I believe it is time to prophesy against Babylon and realize that we are only saving as many as the LORD grants us (to fill the lifeboats).

      You will hear me say ‘repent before its too late’ but I mean to say that the end is coming, like Bob Dylan once sang, like a Slow Train Coming. It is inevitable and too heavy to stop in its tracks… literally and figuratively. Blessings to you!

  6. Michael Rogers says:

    I’m reading your book The Final Babylon… I am believe you thesis is correct. I found a part that I do not understand in Chapter 7. Where you say that Lamech from the line of Cain was Noah’s father trying to make a point about the number 7. I believe their were 2 Lamechs…one through the line of Cain and one through the line of Seth.
    Please help me with this.

    Michael

    • Woodward says:

      Yes… there were two Lamechs and two Enochs… But only one Noah! You see Lamechs and Enochs in both Cain’s line as well as in Seth’s line.

      • Michael Rogers says:

        Your correct about the two Lamechs. Adam through Cain, and Adam through Seth, but can only “one” Noah have two fathers? If not, which Lamech is Noah’s father? If Noah’s father is through the line of Seth, your hypothesis using the example of Lamech and the number 7 and 7 X 7 becomes diluted and lost in mind numbing genealogy. One can only come to specific conclusions with the information that we have available.

        General consensus for the most part conclude that, Gen 4:25 to Gen 5:32 and Luke 3:23 to 3:38, is considered accurate and distinct from Cain’s genealogy.

        Doug, this is a very small issue and does in no way take away from the veracity of your outstanding book. I think your correct about the location of Babylon being the USA…I have thought that sine the 1990′s, when that concept wasn’t cool.

        My intention is not to be a critic…

        Thank you
        Keep looking up!

        • Woodward says:

          It is an interesting point, though isn’t it? I should turn this over to my colleague Doug Krieger. He is the expert on Genesis and the genealogies. He has even found a couple of flaws in Ushers work.

  7. Just started Power Quest. Excited to say the least. Please see Spiritual Social in Faithwriters, or Bottom Line – Spiritual Socialism in The American Prophet.

    I am getting Fine Line ready to publish in 2014. It is historical fiction and views the realities you describe as framed in the 1906 -1920 perspective. Fine Line is sequel to Woodcutter’s Revival, released in 2012.

    Starting research, with your book as first resource, for Logical Conclusion 2020, third in series. Please friend on Facebook if you like. Pray for my message. I will pray for yours.

    God bless you, your family and ministry.

    Jerry Slauter

    • Woodward says:

      Jerry… approved this comment (slow, shame on me). Sent you Are We Living in the Last Days? And a DVD that I bet you don’t have on America’s Secret Nazi Partnership. You should have it Saturday or MOnday. Excited to get your books.

  8. Devorah says:

    Here is a Video my Husband made that I would have sent it to YOUR e-mail only but I could not find one so I will post it here.

    THE FINAL EXODUS, A SECOND HARBINGER TO AMERICA, END OF DAYS PROPHECY AND THE APOCALYPSE.
    A HEBREW PROPHECY.

  9. Devorah says:

    I never knew about you Doug or your books. I had a dream a few nights ago which three Messengers came to me to give me a message. I don’t have dreams or visions often but when I do I KNOW they are from Abba (Father). SO the dream was that these messengers gave me two “words.” One was “Mars.” The other was “1493.” I am not into UFO’s or know much about the extraterrestrial arena. When I woke up I heard in my spirit go and do research on this planet and also on the year 1493.
    So this is much information on “Mars.” Therefore I prayed asked the Holy Spirit to lead me and I found your interview on , Prophesy in the News. That really opened my understanding as to what Elohim was showing me about the message He sent me. I will order your book so not knowing all you wrote this is what Elohim has told me is the reason for sending me the Messengers to tell me that , the Planet Mars will be in the forefront in the near future, the NWO agenda among governments of the world will be announcing that extra terrestrial life does exist. Also that there use to be life on Mars but because of incompetence of those living on the planet “MARS’ they destroyed the planet, so if we don’t change our ways that will also happen to earth. So as to debunk ALL belief in a Creator this is what IS COMING and soon. There WILL be a great deception that according to the WORD EVEN the very Elect would be deceived if possible and that is why Elohim sent the Messengers to tell me this. That people need to READ their BIBLES! And to OBEY the commandments that their is NO door other than Yeshua, (Jesus). NONE! And that Elohim is allowing this to separate the goats from the sheep and to see who are the FAITHFUL, the true Bride that keeps the Torah and ALL the commandments.
    I am a missionary to the nations and have seen the hunger for Elohim and Yeshua in third world countries and they are meek and humble people and the WORD clearly says the True and ONLY Messiah Yeshua… is coming for only the MEEK, that keep the commandments and only the meek SHALL inherit the earth. SO in the end it will not be like Mars so the GREAT DECEPTION is starting with using the planet “Mars.”

    • Woodward says:

      Thanks Devorah. We shall see. Of course, my book is predicting (not a Word from YHWH mind you, just my analysis) that MARS will figure into the great deception… artifacts of intelligent life will be brought to the publics attention. This will create a great deal of consternation (doubt) on the part of the Christian world. My book tries to explain how we should understand what will be made public. I hope it will bless many in the days to come.

  10. Shirley York says:

    Thank you for you are doing for Yeshua’s Kingdom. I enjoyed meeting you at PITN meeting in Orlando. I came with my mother ( she is almost 86). She is next in line to read your books. They are informational and prayer provoking. I just finished your last book about the lying wonders of the red planet. I am now starting your Power Quest duo. Yes, it is backwards but it is my current learning style. It took me awhile to finish the lying wonders book. I ran reference on your research and quotes. Another part of my quirky learning style. I found
    you writings to be accurate.
    Thank you and your family for all you are doing for the Kingdom of God. Praying for you, your work and your family.
    Shalom,
    Shirley

    Thank you and your family for the prayer and time it took to dilgently pull all of this together under the direction of our God.

    • Woodward says:

      Thanks you Shirley. Your feedback is a blessing and an encouragement. Your prayers are treasures. Blessings to you and your mother. I hope she gets a good deal from the reading of my books. That’s why they were written.

  11. Hi doug i am ready to start working on our book, i have a AUTHOR COLLABORATION AGREEMENT to send you it’s simple that way we can start working right away and I can send you everything I have so far. Can’t wait to hear from you. In the meantime I am working on the location for your visit it will be in a hotel by the airport but I need you to send me what days you have available after June of this year chck your calander and let me know. Also do you have a translator cause we are going to need one and I also need to translate the slides you are going to use into spanish, so you whenyou figure out whats its going to be send it to me so i can get started. The Lord has a lot of work for us to do also keep us in prayer for raising the funds for this event. My home number is 305-245-8823 call me there first and my cell is 786-285-8129. Your sister in christ. Frances

  12. Hi Doug! We have designed the largest publicity campaign in history to develop strong, positive character in every single young person in America. Our website is just the tip of the iceberg. The same company that designed the sponsor benefits for the Olympics, designed ours (All Stars is much bigger than the Olympics). Based on you corporate experience, I would greatly appreciate your input. Could we meet while you are in Orlando this week? My cell is 407-963-0831.

  13. Thomas says:

    This is the letter I sent to my brother concerning, JR Church, Gary Stearman, Jonathan Cahn, LA Marzulli, Chuck Missler, Bill Salus Danny Ben Gigi
    Bill Koenig
    Doug Woodward
    Mark Biltz
    Paul McGuire
    Russ Dizdar
    Bill Federer
    Terry Cook
    Cris Putnam
    Avi Lipkin
    Derek Gilbert
    & Steve quale.
    I din’t want you to get upset, So don’t take this wrong, These guys are fine to gleam stuff from they give allot of truth, They are the experts in transhamanism! When I went to listen It didn’t open for me, When I went to check it out this morning every tab i clicked asked for money? These guys are all affiliated with the catholic church, The Jesuit order, and in the case of kahn, a Kabbalist. The information is tainted. The approach is simple. Tell some truth Magnify the consequences, Make the listener purchase something. Always something they know; that no one else does. And do it now before you miss it!!!

    This same group was doing this 7 years ago, None of those things happened! Its like me preaching the 4 horseman of revelations, Will it happen yes. could be today could be next month could be 30 years from today?
    If my message is to repeat the warnings over and over, one third will die! scorpions will sting! hunger will prevail. And its started, I have inside info that it will occur in 2014, Buy this from me so you will be protected, And make sure all those you love tune in, If you love them tell them. (So they can be protected to) In reality I should say so I could sell stuff to them to. Or have more listeners so I can charge more for advertising. (The Evil world has no problem advertising with them….Hm-mm) Then my message is a lie. Yes the horseman will come, but in reality I don’t know it will be 2014, and if God really did give me inside information, Did he also deam it to be worth $49.00?

    The end goal of these guys is to lead the followers to the new Christ, The anti-Christ. None of them follow basic Christian principals ever. That’s a wolf dressed as a sheep! They lift themselves up way more than Christ.
    Do a basic study on any of these guys, what you find is Kabbalah, Theosophy, Mind control, Govt connections, Catholic connections, Power thoughts, Tithing. Just to name a few.

    Pray about it, Keep them at a distance, Glean the good info, (What the govt is up to) And never let them scare you! That is there number 1 weapon.

    Love Ya
    Mike

    Another brothers response, to reading this.
    Mike I totally agree with what you just described to Glenn. Good advice.

    They are all about creating panic buying so they can laugh all the way to the bank.

    Its all a fraud.

    I pray Glenn doesn’t get mad but just takes a careful, more cynical look at the scammers to see for himself what they are up to.

    Hagman and Hagman, and many of these seem to work together and promote each other.

    Love ya,

    Larry

    • Woodward says:

      Well… you think I am associated with the Catholic Church? Hmm. My daughter in law grew up in a Catholic Church and she could testify to the fact that I am NOT a Catholic. I don’t believe I have ever been in a Cathlic Church except perhaps once for a funeral and I am not even sure of that.

      Your information is nutty. Plus. We don’t make that much money selling books in this area. I can barely make it writing books. The audience just isn’t big enough. If I sell 4,000 books per title, that is a good book. Hardly a best seller in most circles.

      Sorry to refute your speculation.

      Doug Woodward

  14. Davis Tims says:

    Dear Mr Woodward,
    My name is Davis Tims. I am a 45 year old father of 4. I recently tuned in to PITN and watched the interview with Gary Stearman (LYING WONDERS….Red Planet). I was so captivated by the discussion and the huge amount of information made available. I was compelled to search for any additional videos or lectures of yours on the web. I happened to see the lecture you shared at the Colorado Springs Prophecy Conference a couple of years ago. I was blown away by the research you shared on NASA and the occult, specifically the Nazi influence in America vs Free Masonry. I’m writing you today in hopes of the possibility of receiving more information on the subject (as of 2014).
    Unfortunately I am going through a very challenging period in my life, with regards to finances. I lost my job last Sept. – which is the first time ever for me in my professional career as a medical device sales rep and O.R. technician/assistant specializing in cardio thoracic surgery. Is there any chance of a grant of some sort, through your ministry to receive some of your materials I’ve seen advertised? Of course any web links or additional audio or video of this subject matter would also be greatly appreciated. I’m committed to partner with your ministry financially as soon as I’m able to do so.
    I’m completely aware of the fact that my request can not be granted due to predetermined policies within your ministry. Frankly that would be normal. However I really can not afford to purchase any of these materials at this point and I am so eager to learn more.
    Thank you for taking the time to read my comments. May The Lord Jesus continue to bless your very important work for this generation – quite possibly the final generation??

    Thanks so much,

    DT

  15. Steve Arnold says:

    Mr. Woodward, I have thoroughly enjoyed watching you on PITNews. You, Gary and others have helped me put together many things I have been working on over the years. I have just recently started building a website of my findings over the past 20+ years and they are very much in line with your findings. I know you are very busy but if you can, please take the time to view some of the pictures I’ve taken of the artifacts I’ve found. I have many more that are quite interesting that I haven’t posted pics of. The site is: http://www.cryofthestones.com. (still under construction) Thank you, and Best of success at the conference.

  16. Leonard Belisle says:

    Hi Doug!
    You and I have communicated in the past regarding ‘Power Quest’ 1 & 2 and I have also read with much interest your latest book, ‘The Final Babylon.’

    You and your co-authors make a powerful case for America and New York being “Mystery” Babylon, and I would wholeheartedly agree with the America part even going a little farther to say that the current occupant of the White House fills the bill for the “First Beast,” “Lawless One” (The-One?), and “the Man of Sin.”

    However, tempting as New York is to be “Mystery Babylon,” what do you do with Zechariah 5:5-11 and many other Scriptures that indicate the historic Babylon, Iraq will be the end-times…BABYLON?

    “Then the angel who talked with me came out and said to me, “Lift your eyes now, and see what this is that goes forth.”
    So I asked, “What is it?” And he said, “It is a basket that is going forth.”
    He also said, “This is their resemblance throughout the earth: Here is a lead disc lifted up, and this is a woman sitting inside the basket”; then he said, “This is Wickedness!” And he thrust her down into the basket, and threw the lead cover over its mouth. Then I raised my eyes and looked, and there were two women, coming with the wind in their wings; for they had wings like the wings of a stork, and they lifted up the basket between earth and heaven.
    So I said to the angel who talked with me, “Where are they carrying the basket?”
    And he said to me, “To build a house for it in the land of SHINAR (BABYLON); when it is ready, the basket will be set there on its base.” (Zec 5:5:11)

    After the pre-tribulation Rapture of the Church and the ensuing Psalm 83 war, probably one of the first places to go up in smoke during the subsequent Ezekiel 38-39 “WWIII” will be New York City [“and I will send fire on Magog (Russia) and on those who live in security in the coastlands (America, et al) Eze 39:6].”

    I believe the United States will be severely pruned during WWIII, but it will go on to be “the king of the hill” of what is left in the world and relocate its “Capitol” to a safer (less radioactive) central domain…Babylon!

    If you are interested, you can read a more in-depth analysis HERE: https://www.facebook.com/notes/leonard-belisle/the-coming-world-leader/172219366167441
    MARANATHA!

  17. Adrian Maskill says:

    Mr. Woodward, please check your g-mail inbox, I’ve sent you two attachments that I hope will be of use to you before your next edition goes to print.

    Also, thank you for Power Quest, I just finished reading it. I have struggled with a fear for America that is in conflict with my Catholic, and then Baptist, Christian experience. My mother was born in Bavaria in a town along the Inn River, just miles from Adolf’s Braunau on the one side and the future Pope Ratzinger on the other. She remembers being in grade school when the crosses were taken down and replaced with Hitler’s portrait. Four of her uncles fought on the German side, only one came back alive. She even witnessed her aunt and grandmother killed, caught in crossfire with American soldiers. Still, she married one.

    My father is a Vietnam war vet who served his country despite the incredible racism thrown at him as the grandson of Italian and Mexican immigrants. When he came back from the war, he was refused a seat in a diner outside of Waco when the owner told him NO DOGS OR MEXICANS ALLOWED. My German mother, recently made an American citizen, was shocked at that level of abuse from her newly adopted country, especially since it was the country that had so recently spanked hers for similar racist ideologies. It was quite the culture shock, as she expected different from the “Christian” country that had just finished taking the splinter out of her Fatherland’s eye. As most Germans are, she is rather a blunt instrument and devoid of tact, so she let him have it… but we still had to eat in the car.

    We have come a long way, and I’m still sorting out the conflicting views of America that I have been taught – we are either the capstone in God’s amazing plan for earth or the foul instrument of its demise. I used to be an ardent defender of the former, but recent events have led me, sadly, to consider the latter. Perhaps God led me to your books where I could see the documentation for my fears presented by such a capable author.

    God bless you and your work for Him.
    Adrian Maskill

  18. mary hoffman says:

    12/2/2013

    To: Authors Krieger, McGriff and Woodward

    Re: The Final Babylon

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for exposing the truth about who really reigns over the USA. (Pages 110 – 111).

    But it isn’t just a kosmokrator. It’s Satan himself.

    About 15-plus years ago I had a dream of the Spirit. The dream totally perplexed me and the interpretation was not revealed to me for many years afterward.

    At the time I had the dream, I was a rabid Republican and blood-and-guts patriot. I pounded the pavement going door to door for conservative Republican candidates, I attended all the precinct meetings and wrote resolutions, which were adopted, regarding prayer/Bibles in schools, 10 commandments in school, etc. I cried over a copy of “The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere” and sobbed, “Lord, they stole my country,” and I believed the “Founding Fathers” were unimpeachable saints, so when I had this dream I could NOT understand it.

    * * *

    In the dream, two men were standing in front of an old beat-up bureau dresser within many drawers. They were looking into one of the drawers and the bigger of the two men was selling something to the smaller man that was in that drawer.

    The bigger man was almost twice as big as the other man who was of normal size. The smaller, normal-sized man was wearing a brown shirt, button down, modern style.

    The bigger man was dressed like George Washington, but he wasn’t George Washington, he was Satan.

    That was the end of the dream.

    * * *

    For many years I could not understand why Satan would be dressed like George Washington, but now I know.

    It was a picture from the Holy Spirit of the real “Father of the Country.”

    Whenever anybody hears the phrase “Father of the Country,” they think of George Washington. The Holy Spirit was putting the two together.

    Satan dressed like George Washington = The REAL Father of The United States of America.

    It was not a fallen angel (kosmokrator) or any of their demon spawn. I know the difference; believe me.

    There was more to the interpretation of the dream as it continues to unfold to this day, but this was the part I wanted to communicate to you.

    Again, many thanks and God Bless You!

    I also am a pre-tribulation Believer, Doug.

    See you Home soon!

    (not sure first email got through, trying again)

    • Woodward says:

      I know that authors Krieger and McGriff will appreciate the very detailed and fascinating comment! Thank you for sending it.

      I know they will also NOT be as happy that you, like me, remain a Pre-Trib believer. But alas, we can’t all agree on everything, else someone would be unnecessary.

      Thanks for your interest and kind words.

      Doug Woodward

  19. mary hoffman says:

    12/2/2013

    To: Authors Krieger, McGriff and Woodward

    Re: The Final Babylon

    Thank you, thank you, thank you for exposing the truth about who really reigns over the USA. (Pages 110 – 111).

    But it isn’t just a kosmokrator. It’s Satan himself.

    About 15-plus years ago I had a dream of the Spirit. The dream totally perplexed me and the interpretation was not revealed to me for many years afterward.

    At the time I had the dream, I was a rabid Republican and blood-and-guts patriot. I pounded the pavement going door to door for conservative Republican candidates, I attended all the precinct meetings and wrote resolutions, which were adopted, regarding prayer/Bibles in schools, 10 commandments in school, etc. I cried over a copy of “The Midnight Ride of Paul Revere” and sobbed, “Lord, they stole my country,” and I believed the “Founding Fathers” were unimpeachable saints, so when I had this dream I could NOT understand it.

    * * *

    In the dream, two men were standing in front of an old beat-up bureau dresser within many drawers. They were looking into one of the drawers and the bigger of the two men was selling something to the smaller man that was in that drawer.

    The bigger man was almost twice as big as the other man who was of normal size. The smaller, normal-sized man was wearing a brown shirt, button down, modern style.

    The bigger man was dressed like George Washington, but he wasn’t George Washington, he was Satan.

    That was the end of the dream.

    * * *

    For many years I could not understand why Satan would be dressed like George Washington, but now I know.

    It was a picture from the Holy Spirit of the real “Father of the Country.”

    Whenever anybody hears the phrase “Father of the Country,” they think of George Washington. The Holy Spirit was putting the two together.

    Satan dressed like George Washington = The REAL Father of The United States of America.

    It was not a fallen angel (kosmokrator) or any of their demon spawn. I know the difference; believe me.

    There was more to the interpretation of the dream as it continues to unfold to this day, but this was the part I wanted to communicate to you.

    Again, many thanks and God Bless You!

    I also am a pre-tribulation Believer, Doug.

    See you Home soon!

    Mary Hoffman
    6611 Laurel Glen Drive
    Katy, Texas 77440
    Email – mary.hoffman@att.net

  20. Daniel Sullivan says:

    Hi just love the book so far. I wanted to point out something. I believe Barack Obama is the closest thing i have seen to an anti-christ figure. He is now training a woman to take his place. this would be the perfect depiction of a woman riding a beast that will betray her. Another thing, I am a painter, so when I look at the American flag I also see the color purple. If you mix the three together You get the color purple.

  21. Pierce Dodson says:

    Dear Doug ,
    Got THE FINAL BABYLON the other day. I am a pastor who lost my career as a
    vocational pastor years ago. You might want to read my story @www.ephesians5-11.org
    under Testimonies. I am writing to refer you to a trilogy of books, SCARLET AND THE BEAST, written by my friend, John Daniel. I looked in your bibliography and did not
    see his books. He has developed Alzheimers but if you are interested in these books,
    contact his wife @ 1-903-759-8535. I think you will want these books. If you need to
    reach me, call 615-449-6235. Thanks for your ministry!

  22. Doug, in 1998 I wrote a book, one chapter briefly explained that the USA is indeed Mystery Babylon. in addition, a chapter regarding whoever would be pope at the time would indeed be the false prophet. At the time, I had never heard anyone share this position, thou I’m sure writers from earlier centuries published the same. At the time of writing I was in ministry full time for a period of 12 years. Today, I am a State of Michigan professional licensed investigator and I write concerning prophetic issues in light of current Bible prophecy. I would like to share a few recent articles I have written regarding the Obama healthcare program and the connection to Zeus, Asclepius & The “Staff of Asclepius” The “Seat of Satan” the City of Pergamum, the sin of numbering people and its relationship to the system of the beast and “mark”. Some information is published on my site: http://www.linksenterprises.com

    • Woodward says:

      Dennis: I approved this comment, so it is public. I would be very interested in taking a look at your work.

      If you want this comment private, please advise and I will hide it. Thanks for reaching out! Blessings to your continued work for the Kingdom.

    • Dennis says:

      Douglas Thanks for your response. It is apparent to me that “watchers” today are receiving and dispensing critical information that is necessary for Believers to effectively finish the race we are all in. It is clear to me that the Lord has, for lack of a better term, divided up subject matter amongst men with special insight into very specific “portions” of what comprises the larger picture, thou we all share pieces of each other’s findings, it is clear to me that something of critical importance is going on and being duplicated around the world.

      Profound and ongoing revelation that you, (Mystery Babylon); Rabbi Cahn, (the harbinger); Tom Horn, the false prophet (pope); L.A. (Nephilim), and a few others is in my opinion strong evidence that something unique is happening. I am in touch, on a regular basis via my publishing’s, with these and a few other men sharing insights into what I like to call the “ObamaSnare, Where Satan Dwells”. (Pergamos – Revelation-2:12-13).

      Douglas, do you have a separate private email address where I may privately share directly with you specific information that I have been publishing? If so, please use my email address as indicated to respond and I will send information for your review and release, as you see fit for the edification and benefit of the Church at large.

      In His Service,
      DA Bozung

  23. al E. says:

    Greetings Doug;

    I watched your interview with Gary Stearman and believe that there is a simple answer to your location for “Mystery Babylon” .
    The Bible is both literally and figuratively correct!

    If you look at a map of New York City you will see that the Towns of “Babylon and New Babylon are directly linked to the worlds financial center and part of it!!

    So I believe the ones whose god is money are in the middle of Babylon as the Bible states.
    YBIJ, (your brother in Jesus)
    Ace

  24. Jim Marmon says:

    Doug, As I have not read your book, my thoughts may be of no value. Are you familiar with the vision of George Washington in the winter of 1777. It is printed in the American Legion Magazine many years ago. The up shot of the vision is that America will suffer three major wars on the American continent; American Revolution, Civil War, and another in which we will be invaded. The only way I can envision a future invasion is if we have some future internal conflict on going. I wonder if this could represent the division between believers and nonbelievers, as the leaders of this country, in my poor opinion, do not represent the Christian population. As creative as the people of this country are, I can envision this conflict.
    Also, I agree with you in the fact this country has exported, through the media, Babylonian fealth (sp) and the government imposed on other countries unfair economic policies that has caused greater poverty under the guise of Free Trade.
    If we take this a step farther, What could bring on a civil war? Possibly, a president trying to become a dictator, who knows. Well, you have my speculation. Jim

  25. Helen Ruth says:

    Hello,

    Your book, The Final Babylon, is in my Amazon shopping cart as I type. I’ve always had a suspicion about America…. This came about from reading the entire bible from front to cover and starting over and over again and finally seeing the big picture.

    When I returned from my backpacking trip to the Middle East, I couldn’t deny the truth. Where do I start??

    Upon entry into Egypt, I stayed at a backpacker’s hostel and my room was named after Obama. Next door, the room was dedicated to Bill Clinton. As I stood next to the Great Pyramids and gazed off into the distance, I saw Pizza Hut and KFC. I drank Coca Cola as I floated down the Nile River. At Khan el Khalili’s famous souk, I was served Lipton Tea. At Mc Donald’s not far from Tahrir Square I listened to the song, AMERICAN PIE, blaring from the speakers.

    I marveled at the shops with dirt floors, the deep poverty, the animals sharing the busy streets and honking cars. And yet, the next shop over, they were using our American made computers, wearing Nike, smoking American Cigarettes, and laughing with friends on Facebook.

    Before viewing Tutankhamun’s treasures and the mummy of Ramses, I was served Dorito’s and more Coca Cola. In the middle of the Sinai desert, I found Lay’s potato chips. On the border of Egypt and Israel, Twinkies.

    As I trekked through Petra Jordan, I was continually reminded of Indiana Jones, by the souvenirs and movie posters. I gazed at the ancient city of the Nabataeans, as I snacked on a Snicker’s bar. As I exited through the narrow passages of the Sic, I was surrounded by Secret Service and American Vice President Joe Biden making a grand entrance. I lost count of the Washington D.C. plates that lined the trail to the visitor center. While in Jerusalem, I was accosted by merchants who wanted to sell me the souviners of Hannah Montana, and Sponge Bob Square Pants.

    The loudest voice in my head was, “HOW could America NOT be mentioned in the end times, when America is EVERYWHERE?????

    Shalom!

    • Woodward says:

      Helen, fabulous post. Do you mind if I feature it in a blog and highlight it by sending it out to my subscribers? I will make a point to share it on the Final Babylon page on Facebook, with your permission.

      Awesome! Speaking on behalf of the three authors, we couldn’t agree more!

  26. William Poelstra says:

    No. There only three methods of communication possible. 1. Email attachment. 2. Snail mil. 3. Posting it as a comment. The length of the paper is 11 pages. Is this too long for a comment ?

  27. Doug Krieger says:

    Krieger – Now, that’s more like it – as brethren in Christ, this is how it should be…not that it wasn’t at the inception of things here, but this is much better. I am fascinated by your take on “apostles and prophets” – and your inclusio of “saints” as well in that NU and M (NU= Most prominent modern Critical Text of the Greek N.T. published in 26th edition of the Nestle-Aland Greek N.T., etc. and M-Majority Text) translate the verse as: “saints and apostles and prophets” (Rev. 18:20) who have been vindicated by Babylon’s judgment. You have uncovered something here that, I believe, is quite profound in meaning at the conclusion of the Age.

    Mystery Babylon’s persecution, quite frankly, throughout both the Israelitish Era and that of the Church will culminate at the end of this Age – no doubt about it…whatever the “tribulation viewpoint” may be…it is sufficient to state that prior to the coming of Christ (bodily return) there will be a host of “tribulation saints” (Rev. 7:9-17) which no man can number who have, in point of glaring fact, come out of great tribulation – which most of us conclude is the final 3.5 years of this age and, again, most conclude is in keeping with the multitude of passages in the Revelation relative to time, times and half a time, 42 months, 1,260 days, 3.5 days, 3.5 years or the latter half of Daniel’s 70th Week or even that it is simply a 3.5 year period of time akin to the ministry of our Lord Jesus which most concur was for 3.5 years upon the earth.

    The “ministry of the prophet” is clearly seen among the Hebrews – for Moses was himself a Prophet of the LORD. The gift of the the Almighty through the Hebrews was the ministry of the PROPHET – no doubt about it; thus, we could say in a broader context that ISRAEL’s predominating character is that of the PROPHET; whereas, insofar as the Church concerns, the apostolic ministry is decisively the outspoken launch of the Church…to such an extend that the Holy City’s foundations bear the names of the 12 Apostles of the Lamb – thus, the CHURCH may be characterized by the APOSTLES…with both Israel and the Church referred to as THE SAINTS – both Old and New Testament…and both emphasized as proper nouns in the New Jerusalem, for the Names of the 12 Patriarchs of Israel are upon the Gates of the Holy City and the Names of the 12 Apostles of the Lamb are her foundations – thus, Israel and the Church, distinct, but as one Bride!

    That is not to say that the office of the PROPHET within the confines of the Church has been extinguished – “He gave some Apostles and Prophets” (Ephesians 4:11) – both Prophets and Apostles were, in the main, slain – their blood shall be avenged on that day! But so will the blood of the SAINTS in general.

    And, as well – exceedingly well, I might add, will this be true during the final Week of Earth’s history in the crucible of the final Week – whether one concurs with a full Week or simply the “end of the Age” –

    Now, this brother does concur with you that “Apostolic Ministry” – along with the office of the Prophet – shall dominate the end of days; that said, we may also see in these verses an expansion of that responsibility whereby something far more corporate in nature may be in view:

    “And I will give power (authority) to my TWO WITNESSES, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth…these are the two olive trees and the two lampstands before the God of the earth…when they finish their testimony, the Beast that ascends out of the bottomless pit will make war against them, overcome them, and kill them…their dead bodies will lie in the street of the Great City which allegorically (the true translation of the word “spiritually”) is called Sodom and Egypt, where also their Lord was crucified” (Rev. 11 excerpts).

    All this to say that the TWO WITNESSES are truly TWO PROPHETS who are giving testimony against that Great City which crucified the Lord of glory and which will “openly persecute” their (what I affirm) corporate witness against that Great City. The “final conflict” between the Holy City and the Great City, I believe, is in view here and that the “Court of the Gentiles” (those uncircumcised who were not willing to be circumcised and therefore could not present an offering/sacrifice at the altar with the worshipers who are measured at the altar – Rev. 11:2) will “tread the holy city underfoot for forty-two months.”

    This “treading” asunder for 42 months of the Holy City mirrors the 3.5 days of “open persecution” mentioned in Rev. 11:9, 11 – for the 1,260 days of prophecy of the Two Witnesses/Prophets is unmitigated; therefore, these time frames cannot overlap – i.e., the witness and testimony of the Two Prophets is during the first half of the week (no one dare lay a hand on them) and the latter half of the week there is the treading down of the Holy City for 42 months or similarly the same 42 months mentioned in Rev. 13:5 wherein the Beast is given authority for 42 months and “It was granted to him to make war with the saints and to overcome them” (Rev. 13:7).

    Indeed, the final time frame shall be dominated by prophetic utterance AGAINST THAT GREAT CITY, BABYLON and it shall unite the Bride of the Lamb, preparing her for her Beloved.

    Now, “some” of this ministry is commencing to sweep the Church – let us pray that His One Body shall be equipped for their greatest hour of testimony in spite of the current, as we say, distress of the nations. And, I realize that not all who read this blog concur with this rendition – but I believe it makes biblical sense and challenges God’s people in preparation and prophetic witness in these last of the last days!

    Bro. Doug

  28. Doug Krieger says:

    The claims and/or accusations made by Dwight Osborne abide unsubstantiated. His reasoning is “unilateral” – he says America is NOT the Final Babylon and we say he is wrong, America is the Final Babylon. Of course, there is no Scriptural refutation of Dwight’s part; in part perhaps because he was simply making “introductory remarks” with a desire to clarify his positions. May I address Dwight personally?

    Dwight, from the sound of it you appear to be a Preterist in that you claim that all prophecy was consummated at the time of John the Revelator. That, insofar as “revelation” concerns, is accurate – i.e., the “Revealed truth of Scripture” was consummated at that time; however, many of us affirm that the Five-Fold Ministry given to the Church, including that of the Prophet, still persists – there is in this sense no cessation.

    That is a similar claim made by Preterism – e.g., by 70 A.D. at the destruction of the Second Temple (viz., the Herodian Temple) as prophesied by Jesus in Matthew 24:1-2) claims that all futurity of prophecy was concluded–i.e., in the immediate future; within the First Century AD. Another example of Preterism – which is akin to radical Historicism which, in the main, affirms the position that the entire Seventy Week prophecy found in Daniel 9:24-27 has been fulfilled in toto – i.e., there is no future 70th Week (7 year time frame) found at the end of the current dispensation yet future (this position is held by Seventh-Day Adventists and, in the main, by those of the Reformed Faith – that is, Reformational Christianity which came out of the Catholic Church during Martin Luther’s era).

    Doug Woodward, Dene McGriff and I attempt to maintain a semblance of Christian excellence and courtesy. I affirm, for example, a post-tribulational position wherein the Church is to face her greatest hour of testimony and triumph through empowerment, persecution, perseverance, proclamation, prophetic witness against Babylon the Great until the parousia; whereas, my dear brother Woodward (at this juncture – I abide forever hopeful) affirms differently and is pre-tribulational in his belief – i.e., the Church will be raptured before the commencement of Daniel’s 70th Week – yet we felt compelled to write this book together, having been, we believe, led by the Holy Spirit to do so – knowing full well, that it would be controversial … you certainly confirm that response; however, perhaps you have sundry writings from which we could be enlightened as to your actual eschatology and/or other writings to which you can point us.

    Without knowing your eschatological position aside from this broad brush stroke we simply cannot counter your charges – especially, your condescending comments regarding “trash” and the like. As in any truly Christian forum, our attempt is to honor the Lord Jesus and to avoid unnecessary provocations, slander, hype, while being brethren of conviction who remain approachable as to sundry doctrines which in the final analysis are not salvific in nature – by that I mean if brethren in Christ concur that Jesus Christ is returning bodily to the earth, then the timing of His arrival should NOT separate us from the love of God which is in Christ Jesus our Lord. Notwithstanding, we at times must “agree to disagree agreeably” on certain points of “eschatological difference” (and we may do so from time to time vociferously) but that should NOT break our unity in Christ. Working together for “the faith of the gospel” may be another matter – for example, Paul found Mark to be “unprofitable” for the ministry and then after some time Mark and Paul were found together working for the faith of the gospel – so things can change from time to time.

    We wrote this text because we felt that those brethren who affirm a literal return of Christ we’re seeking clarity and answers to the current stress of nations and that previous paradigms aforementioned in our text were missing the mark, unsatisfactory and simply overlooked the preponderance of biblical evidence that America as Mystery Babylon met all the criteria for THE FINAL BABYLON insofar as the metaphors, symbols, signs seen, especially in Revelation 16-19.

    It is our biased opinion, after extensive research and collaboration and some nearly 100 years in theology, industry, military, finance, education…that a cohesive and unmitigated presentation of the true Mystery Babylon simply had to be presented with candor and with the love of Christ…we felt that three authors would be a cord not easily broken…far more difficult but exceedingly more persuasive.

    May the Lord continue to bless you in your work for our Lord Jesus Christ and may these difference not be a cause for strident rhetoric which simply leads to endless disputations and rancor – instead, pursue the Scripture of Truth (Dan. 10:21) with all due diligence with a view to nourish God’s people with the Hope of His Coming again in Glory!

    Bro. Doug

    • Woodward says:

      Thank you brother Doug K for speaking on our behalf.

      • Michael says:

        I admit that I am a novice when it comes to biblical prophecy but certainly not a stranger to common sense doctrine which I believe your book is. I purchased your recent publication The Final Babylon and am fascinated by its seemingly accurate biblical content and end times relevance. This by far is one of the easiest reads I’ve come across in some time. May God continue to enlighten you by HIS Holy Spirit as we approach HIS imminent return.

        • Woodward says:

          Thank you Michael. I appreciate you taking the time to give us your feedback. Making a book easy to read and still convey some challenging content is not easy. Glad we’ve achieved some measure of success! Blessings to you.

  29. Dwight Osborne says:

    The majority of these posts here seem to be very glowing and accepting of your book. I wonder if you have the integrity to publish an opposing view. While the ac may possibly come from the US, the power of base will not be the US. Those of you on this link who claim to be prophets are merely deceiving yourselves and others. The last prophet was John the Revelator and prophecy has since been consummated. Your opinions may be well researched and thought out; however, they DO NOT line up with what a literal reading of the Scripture says, so I have to discount your opinions as just that and false ones at that. I’m sure there are enough people out there who will be deceived enough to go out and spend their money on this trashy book, and that’s all it is. I’m sure you’ll get rich and laugh yourself all the way to the bank. I watched Woodward being interviewed on prophecy in the news with Gary Stearman and came away quite convinced that they are deceived themselves and leading others into deception. Maybe you hadn’t noticed it, but that’s one of the indications of the last days and these people come out of the church, not the world. So sad and even sadder that people are going to fall for your rhetoric.

    • Woodward says:

      Hi Dwight. I would love to have an opportunity to publish an opposing view. It just needs to be well written, not a personal attack, and not inflammatory. Attack the ideas not the author, if you will. So I hope my integrity is intact!

      I’m not sure why you think the book is trashy. That makes it sound like pornography. And please read the first chapter on this web site before you finalize your opinion.

      I am not a prophet by the way, just an author.

      • Osborne – I want to share some revelations from the Book of Revelation in which I also reveal in my book. Revelation chapter 18 talks about the judgment of mystery Babylon Church because she killed the holy apostles and prophets and saints that are living in the last- days Rev 18:20 & 24 – Rev 10:7 says the mystery will fully revealed in last-days to his servants the prophets. The book of Revelation also talk about only only two ministries that whole book. The ministries that started the church God has already restored those ministries for they will unite the bride and end the church age. Pray about I send this in love not to debate about.

  30. Hi Doug I saw you on Prophecy in the news with Gary stearman. I was floored when I heard what was in your book about America. Your see iam a Prophet/Evangelist in the church. I wrote a book in 2009 about a true story. The Lord told me to climb a certain mountain on a certain island back in 2001, and told me that he would show me the things that would happen to America. First he showed me the 9/11 attack months before it happen that I wrote about in my book, God revealed to me also that America is the Beast and New York and Dc are the center, I wrote this in my book also. The Lord spoke to me on Sept 22th 2001 that the area of New York to Dc would be total destroyed, he didn’t say when. All this I wrote in my book and more , now your know why I look forward to reading your book. I am a minister not a writer, my book never get out in the media because Iam a minister with a gift and a story not a polished writer. My book was published by Xulon press 2009 – Seven Mysteries of the book of Revelation Revealed / The End of the Church Age. Google my name and you will see about my minister and book, (Minister Howard Stevens). I also have a radio program, wish you could be a guest on my program, I want to rewrite and update my book I have must more to reveal about the fallen church in America and the Anti- Christ figures that will arise, their is more than one!, I need a co- author , maybe you can help, you can call me 404-536-8157
    God Bless you

    • Woodward says:

      What a fantastic note. Thank you for sharing this brother. I will call. We have much to discuss. I will also try to find your book. Or perhaps we could swap signed copies for one another? Stand by.

      • Thank you for the reply – sure call me I will send you a signed copy of my book and trade you for a signed copy of your. Plus I need some advise when I revise my book, and I have to finish another about my calling titled (Come up Higher) I want also to help promote your book in my area, call me. God Bless

  31. William G. Poelstra says:

    I discovered in 1973 that the USA is mentioned in Rev 13:18.
    Using wisdom and Greek gematria obtain the following:
    U υ 400
    S σ 200
    A α 1
    Total 601
    What must be done to bring 601 up to 666?
    ε = 5 = E and ξ = 60 = X
    Putting it all together we get EX USA = OUT OF THE USA.
    Thus the beast (AC) will come out of the USA!!!!!
    Further details are contained my unpublished paper
    The Involvement of the UNITED STATES in Eschatological Events.

  32. Craig Fincher says:

    Thank you for the quick reply!

  33. Craig Fincher says:

    Will you be producing a Kindle version of The Final Babylon? I will be buying your book no matter what, but prefer it on my Kindle. Thank you for all your hard work.

    • Woodward says:

      Craig… you are welcome!

      The electronic version will probably be perhaps six months away. I am preparing eBooks for all previous five books. In fact, I’m working on the third book as I write this! The first two are available now on Kindle and Lulu. The third will be available later this week. Formerly entitled, Black Sun Blood Moon, I am releasing it with an updated title, Keeping Watch: Readying ourselves for the Coming of Christ’s Kingdom.

    • T Johnson says:

      I was looking for Kindle too and so were my friends!

    • Woodward says:

      Thanks Jacob. I pray that your brief assessment is correct.

    • MFS says:

      Have very much enjoyed reading the comments on this page and followed this link so I could understand Doug’s reference. It seems to me, however, that the blog linked denies the security of the believer (which, to me, denies the finality of the work of Christ). I do not want to turn this site into a debate on that topic (I refuse to do so), but I did want those following the link to know this. I could accept 1/3 of those in Israel (I believe Matt 25 is for Israel) at that time (while not holding to it), but I cannot see 1/3 of those who are deemed as already sitting in heavenly place with Christ (whose lives are hid in God in Christ) as being cast down. I cannot see the Body divided.

      [Start copy] From the blog:

      All non-believers will be forced to take the mark of the beast and 1/3 of believers will as well.

      Rev 12:4
      And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.

      (Stars are people who once sat in heavenly places in Christ, but fell away do to lack of oil in their lamps).

      [End copy]

  34. Jacob says:

    The Spirit of truth has come

  35. LEH says:

    I just purchased your book. I’ve always been puzzled why people think the US is not included in end times in the Bible….when you consider that the US is a country of immigrants, I’d say we make up “all nations”……Restoration of Eutope, Rome, 10 nations…Middle East….financial capital…wealth, sin destruction. We have it all and are apparently proud of it.

    Now on to reading your book/theory….been waiting for someone to consider the US!

  36. Bob Handley says:

    Hi Doug:

    I finished your book a few months ago, and due to my usual procrastination, I’m finally going to comment on your great book. You and your co-authors have hit it on the head….America is definitely the Daughter of Babylon (Mystery Babylon). I am willing to challenge any Christian who thinks Mystery Babylon is either Iraq, Rome, or even Israel. If Christians would not only read their Bible but also study it, they would come to the conclusion as you have in showing that American is the Mystery Babylon. First of all, America meets all the criteria of Jeremiah 50-51, Rev. 17-18 et al. No other nation/city in the world comes even close to meeting the Biblical criteria for Mystery Babylon. One of the biggest clues showing that America is Mystery Babylon is Rev. 18:4. There, the Lord is telling His people to come out of her – that is, Mystery Babylon. America today has the largest population of Jews in the world next to Israel. Why is He telling the Jews to come out of her…simply that Mystery Babylon will be destroyed in one hour. After the Rapture, there will be most likely a gap of time before the Tribulation begins. The Antichrist will kill two-thirds of the Jews during the last half of the Great Tribulation. Many of these Jews who escape America the Babylon, will most likely flee to Israel and some (not knowing how many) will be part of the one-third remnant that flee to the Red Rose City of Petra where the Lord will protect them from the Antichrist. If one would only sit down and write out all the criteria pertaining to American showing that it is Mystery Babylon and also attempt to do so with other nations such as Iraq, Italy (Rome) et al, they will have to come to the conclusion that America is Mystery Babylon. Right now today, with our government threatening Syria with an attack on their poison/chemical stockpiles, shows that America is a “hammer” nation…the “police” of the world nations.

    Doug, and your two co-authors, Doug Krieger and Dene McGriff have done a good job in showing not only that America is Mystery Babylon, but showing much of the history of our nation and how it has been infected with Nazism and Socialist ideology. I think the destruction of America must come in the first part of the Tribulation, but that is only a guess. The “gap period” which I mentioned between the Rapture and the start of the Tribulation, will provide sufficient time for the Antichrist to re-build the 3rd Temple in Jerusalem; burn the weapons of the Gog Magog War which will be seven years, and work out a pseudo peace plan resulting in his confirming the seven year peace covenant with Israel. Furthermore, I believe the third world war is very imminent. That is, the Psalm 83/Obadiah 1:18 war will take place, and perhaps this will cause the Antichrist to rise to power as a so-called “peace maker.” Israel will win this war and expand its boundaries eastward resulting in its becoming very rich in oil, natural gas, etc., which will be the “spoil” that will bring about the Gog Magog war of Ezekiel 38-39. Again, thanks Doug (and co-authors) for a great book. And thanks Doug for your autographed book you sent me. I know this is short and I realize there is a lot more to what I covered here.

    • Woodward says:

      Bob. Thanks so much for this great review. Much appreciated. If you have time and if I can prevail on you to place it on Amazon for us, that would be awesome! I’ll be sure to share this with my two coauthors. They too will thank you. Blessings. PS. Have read some of the book you sent me. I need to share the title on another I just read on the same topic Gary recommended.

  37. Doug Krieger says:

    Terry – You are not alone in your efforts to persuade and conjole the government of these United States to righteousness. I too was most vociferous in this prospect to the point of literally holding White House briefings during the Reagan Era and many other pursuits. May we commend the fine efforts of Jonathan Cahn who of late has been found in our nation’s capitol’s hallways calling our leaders to repentance and alerting them to pending judgment without compromise.

    Notwithstanding the calls to repentance and the healing of our land as a consequence of our humbling attempts to do so – I am now of the persuasion, and that is precisely why I agreed to co-author this text with my colleagues – Doug Woodward and Dene McGriff, that the day for such “political engagement” has ended, so precipitous has been our plunge into her “putridities” – now, as “Sodom and Egypt” – the “Street of the Great City” whereupon our Lord was crucified, is out to “trample asunder” the “Holy City” – even so, has her iniquities ascended to the heavens with the commensurate result that her judgment is assured by Holy Writ for she truly is the FINAL BABYLON.

    Thus, may I encourage you to redirect your fine efforts to declare her “wickednesses” and as Zechariah envisioned the two women with wings of the stroke to carry her in the ephad to her place in Dura (the center) of Babylon – peer inside and there sits that WOMAN OF WICKEDNESSES – and she knows she has but a short time. Stand, as Daniel the prophet, before Belshazzar and declare the hand-writing upon the wall – for she has been numbered and finished; has been weighed in the balances, and found wanting – her kingdom will be decisively divided into THREE PARTS (Rev. 16) and destroyed … thus, we must find our hearts wholly committed to the gospel and to get as many off this sinking vessel as possible for the time is short.

    Finally, may I suggest, that in so doing, the taking of a “moderated” and/or “reasoned” approach while the Concordia has found itself in a terminal condition while the “captains of irresponsibility” just happen to reassure that all is fine and dandy and then accidentally (themselves) fall into a life boat for self-preservation – is NOT an acceptable approach given the extremity of the hour – no, indeed, wouldn’t you think that NOW IS THE TIME TO PANIC or at least a “controlled burn” would do in a pinch!

    We’ve got 24 hours in a day – therefore, REDEEM THE TIME FOR THE DAYS ARE EVIL…that’s the charge, and I believe for us all.

    Press on in Christ to gain the prize – Doug Krieger

  38. Terri Coffman says:

    Hi Doug,
    I saw your interview with Gary Stearman on Prophecy in the News. I found it all very interesting and toward the end of the interview you said that this was not a time for American Christians to be sleeping and waiting for the Rapture, but that your book was a call to action and that we as Christians should holding our government accountable. Do you go into detail in your book about what actions Christians should take? I have emailed my Representative, Senators and even President Obama. I have traveled with a group of people to call on Representatives in person. All the peaceful protests that people have participated in have been ignored. I am also involved in an online prayer group praying for our American government and others that is praying for another great awakening that has members worldwide and streams it’s meetings over the internet every week. Is there something else I should be doing and do you talk about that in your book about Babylon?

    • Woodward says:

      Terri. You are a grand role model for us all! Thank you for taking this issue to heart.

      It is difficult for us to rally our officials to this task because the “common persons” (ie., average Joe and above average Joe) worldview is so anti-biblical. Most everyone, Christians included, may profess some degree of belief in God but they live in denial of his reality. How many of our Congressmen believe the Bible is the inspired Word of God? How many believe that God actively intervenes in World affairs? How many believe that the predictions of the Bible are coming to pass in our day? I would encourage you to continue doing all that you are AND we must challenge our leaders to believe the Bible AND its worldview — to believe that Bible prophecy is happening NOW. We should challenge them to act in accordance to the Word of God and that they are either working to support SATANS program or GODS program. Do they make decisions based on the reality that GOD is working out his plan in our day? Or do they suppose it is “business as usual?” That is the prophetic message we need to proclaim and we need them to hear this in such a way that we seem totally reasonable and responsible in bringing this to their attention. Let me know what you think!

      • Terri Coffman says:

        Well, I found out that there seems to be two prevailing attitudes in the Representatives and Senators we visited. Either they tell you whatever they think you want to hear, or they don’t care what you think. Maybe we didn’t get to see the right ones, because I heard later that a Representative from Virginia told one of his constituents that he and some other Congress members have a prayer group that meets on a regular basis to pray for our nation. I can’t remember how many there are, but it’s a large group. That was encouraging. They may be some of the same ones that were responsible for getting Jonathan Cahn invited to speak at the presidential inaugural prayer breakfast after Barack Obama was elected for his second term. I am hoping to get to read your book soon. I applaud your courage for stepping out and expressing an interpretation of prophecy that may not be popular with some Americans.

    • Sherry Sievert says:

      Terry, I’ve just been perusing some of the comments to Doug Woodward. I noticed yours. You mention an online prayer group – can you tell me more? I get quite depressed and feel so isolated – so few Christians I know take Scripture seriously. I would love to have a connection with other of like faithe and view. Shalom, Sherry (alias Shawrone)

  39. Robert Gates says:

    David Wilkerson published a book called, Set the Trumpet to Thy Mouth in about 1986 or so. He foretold that America would be destroyed in one hour in a fiery holocaust for the multitude of its sins and lack of repentance, and because in her was found the blood of all who are slain upon the earth (Wall street financed WW1, WW2, and a multitude of other wars since, and the present series of invasions and civil wars in the middle east and North Africa that were supposed to be for the sake of Freedom and to eliminate terrorism.) Also, Leonard Ravenhill repeatedly preached that if America did not repent and obtain national revival, that it would not survive much longer but devour itself and fall under God’s judgement.

    • Woodward says:

      I find your comment very intelligent. Yes, David Wilkerson seems to be envisioning what many are and have been for some time. Those with the gifts of the Spirit regarding prophecy and knowledge have been seeing such visions frequently and dreaming dreams (reminiscent of Joe1 2). Wilkerson’s vision reflects Jeremiah 50, 51 and Revelation 17-19. We have a high regard for the late and great David Wilkerson.

  40. James says:

    I have read Richard Coombs, “America The Babylon” and am sad to say both of you are right.
    Jer 51:7 Babylon hath been a golden cup in the LORD’s hand, that made all the earth drunken: the nations have drunken of her wine; therefore the nations are mad.
    Jer 51:9 We would have healed Babylon, but she is not healed: forsake her, and let us go every one into his own country: for her judgment reacheth unto heaven, and is lifted up even to the skies.
    For all those that say were going to take America back, not happening folks. USA is flipping over to the dark side. Then at some point it will be destoyed for all her multitude of sins, especially persecuteing Christians. And dividing Israel.

    • Doug Krieger says:

      James – perhaps one of the most difficult decision for us to make was to go public with our convictions – convictions which have been developed over an extended period of time with much research, prayer and fellowship with brethren from all stripes, though we are one in the Son.

      Today, the CITY OF CONFUSION is embarked upon a spurious Middle Eastern policy which is so bizarre, confusing and without clear direction caused by the O. Doctrine of leading from behind – by the time we act, the parameters of whatever contest have so radically changed that we grasp at policies which are contrary to either Left or Right and, most definitely unappealing to the center.

      The Church is caught in a serious and precarious position as the public square becomes all the more constricted. Cardinal Francis George said it right when he came up against O.’s “same-sex agenda” – “”I expect to die in bed, my successor will die in prison and his successor will die a martyr in the public square.” – the frightening prospect causes many believers to awaken to facing off the foe in the “street of the great city” – which we affirm to be Babylon the Great.

      Jonathan Cahn, at the Prophecy Summit in Colorado Springs, hit the right tone: JUDGMENT IS COMING AND WE NEED TO PREACH REPENTANCE! Your right brother – and so is Ruth Graham: If God doesn’t judge America He’ll have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah! We know that our evangelists are preparing a final assault against the cup of her putridity – but her apostasies have been so wedded to the State that when that State turns on her (e.g., takes away her 501-c-3 status for “hate-speak”) and DEVOURS HER – they who stood/stand with Elijah and refuse to bow their knee to Baal and the “system” it represents alone will escape the ultimate wrath prepared for her Devourer!

      The “apocalyptic” terms used to describe this horror are so far beyond the pale that it simply staggers the imagination – so defiling are her abominations. We have yet to see how far this will go in Babylon’s heartland…but it doesn’t look good, that’s more than certain. Therefore, is our cause to awaken God’s people to take their stand with the Son of Man in practical and realistic ways…fellowship, to say the least, is imperative…”How shall we then live?”

      D. Krieger

  41. Damien Aragon says:

    Doug,
    Great meeting you again, Saturday at the prophecy conference. The book we were discussing at your table was “American Betrayal, the Secret Assault on Our Nation’s Character” by Diana West, 2013. West has done a great job showing the lies of government, education, and media in keeping history from the American people.
    Damien

  42. Lawrence Dove says:

    The United States is end time Babylon and judgment has already be set by Yahweh. Everyone living in Babylon is under the sword. She will be totally destroyed (Ps 137:8), never to be inhabited again. In Jeremiah chapter 50 and 51 Yahweh shows the fate of end time Babylon. We are in the last days (Heb 1:1-2). She will be punished double for her sins. She has made slaves of men and luxuriated herself off of the poor. Yahweh warns in scripture 7 times to flee Babylon. Once Yahweh has decreed judgment, it has been set. We all need to repent in ashes and sackcloth.

    • Woodward says:

      Thanks Lawrence for your comment. I certainly agree that the USA is at the center of the action and unfortunately it isn’t on the right side of the story!

    • pradip says:

      in all tour prejudice against socialism which jesus preached you fail to mention how mystery Babylon destroyed democracy in latin America send in right wing death squads and luxuriates in the explotation of the in chile copper in gautaemala bannas and American fruit company as peter goodgame an American christain said the USin gods eyes is self righteous hypotritcal oppressive I for one who has read on the right wing terror the usa has brought to latin America look forward to Americas distrution

      • Woodward says:

        I appreciate the essential point you are making. While I am not a socialist, I do believe that America has become (in its own guise) quite socialist. Ironically, it resembles national socialism more than communism. Jim Marrs says the same thing in his book, The Fourth Reich. In my book, Power Quest, I talk a great deal about the evil deeds of the CIA. I don’t discuss the geo-political deeds of the CIA… but there are many. Peter Goodgame is a friend. Peter also does a nice job discussing the financial misdeeds of America and raising a serious and proper question about being “Christian” and “Capitalist” at the same time. For me, no economic theory is completely biblical. I have a friend who had a friend who worked for “The Company” who claimed he was the assassin of Allende. He probably was.

  43. Bob Handley says:

    Hi Doug: Looking forward to getting your new book….The Final Babylon. It is an intriquing subject for which not too many Christians know anything about. Keep me posted.

  44. Bo says:

    Doug… I have enjoyed your books a lot! Power Quest has helped me a lot in my studies on America. I used to think America didn’t have much of a role in the end times and rejected the notion that America was Babylon. for many years. Now I am convinced more than ever that America is the end time Babylon! God Bless you!

    • Woodward says:

      Bo… I will be releasing for purchase on July 10 THE FINAL BABYLON which should cinch the argument. Brand new book. 340 pages. Coauthors are Doug Krieger and Dene McGriff. Will be eager to see what you think after you read it!

      • Bo says:

        Awesome!!! Thanks for the heads up Doug on the new book The Final Babylon. I will definitely be getting this book!

        • Woodward says:

          Bo… have you had a chance yet to get the book? Love to have your comments.

          • Bo says:

            Doug, I have gotten the book. You hit the nail right on. I am sorry for the delay. I wanted to read the book entirely and plus I had surgery. I am thoroughly convinced more than ever that America is Babylon and that the Antichrist could rise in America.America is not going to fall to Europe, America will remain the superpower and empire of the last days. I am going to go out and say this book is the most important book on prophecy since The Late Great Planet Earth!People need to read this book!

  45. windsofchange says:

    Just wanted to let you know I really enjoyed you on Daniel Duval’s radio show!!!I am going to have to take a couple listens to that show.
    Thank You~

  46. Bob Handley says:

    Hi Doug:

    Looking forward too, for your next two books. Have you viewed L.A. Marzulli’s Watchers – The Secret Cosmic War? His trip to Peru to view in person skulls of the Nephilim and all the stone monoliths was indeed a great adventure. Just finished a book by John Price, an attorney/Christian, who wrote “The End of America.” It was great until I discovered he was a post-tribber. He left out the Psalm 83 war and jumped into the Magog War of Ezekiel 38/39. As soon as he said that the destruction of America would occur before the Rapture set off an alarm!! The destruction of the Daughter of Babylon won’t happen until, I believe, in the latter part of the Great Tribulation – way after the Rapture. The Middle East situation worsens every day, and I believe that Damascus will be destroyed fairly soon (Isaiah 17:1). Israel will not allow Syria to use their chemical weapons nor allow those chemicals to be shipped to the Hezbolah in Lebanon. Are you just about finished with your next book? Please let me know when it is in print as I would like to purchase it. I hope your father is doing well…I enjoyed meeting him in Branson in 2011. Wish we could make it to the Colorado Springs prophecy conference…maybe next year. Take good care, and keep in touch. Bob

  47. Rob Nelson says:

    Hi Doug.
    Just a note to say your books have reached even to us in the upside down part of the world in New Zealand. Thank you so much for the clarity and breadth of your writing. I find your wisdom and warnings on understanding scripture invaluable. The exhortations to be aware and stay alert have been heard, understood and are being acted upon. I thank the Lord for you and folk like you at The Lighthouse Trails who are “Watchmen on the Wall”.
    Blessings on you and Donna for allowing you to “disappear” to write your books.
    Rob

    • Woodward says:

      Always great to have encouragement. Be looking for two new books. The first is THE FINAL BABYLON. the second is LYING WO
      NDERS OF THE RED PLANET. The first out at the end if July. The other at the end if September. Blessings to all my brothers and sisters in Z land!

      • Rob Nelson says:

        Hi Doug.
        Thanks for taking the time to reply I know you don’t have any spare time with your schedule so it is greatly appreciated. One question comes to mind immediately regarding your new books, in fact for all of your books. Is is possible to buy them in digital format to download?
        I have just started doing this with an i-pad for Mike Heiser’s work and it’s brilliant for traveling. The kind of material you and authors like you are writing is something I would dearly love to be able to carry while on missions.
        Thanks
        Rob

  48. Rudy Zablocki says:

    Dear Doug,
    I just heard your presentation on ” Eugenics and the Super Race. ” You did a great job showing the history of the Nazi’s
    and their evil influence on our American culture through their mind control methods and technology
    that was brought to the U.S. after WW II. God bless your ministry !
    Your brother in Christ,
    Rudy

  49. Tim Baber says:

    The website argues I met Mengele in 2002 in context, checking me out after a month researching his subject…Monarch Programming. Because history records he died in 1979 I forgot about this very short old man…it is always deniable….but in 2011 I saw a photo from 1977 and it was asif he had lept off the page to see who would spend a month straight to read about the bigger picture he served….MK Ultra and nowadays Monarch programming. But once realised, and blogged and emailed for the last 3 years to an oblivious world, more likely true history has fallen into my lap through Google alert aided vigilance and early retirement. See my site. I reckon he probably died about 2007, because son Rolf Jenckel (a DNA source since in question elsewhere) started to rent a 8 to 10 bed villa near Cannes in Mougins for £4,000 a week. Maybe he resorted to go there, or worked on Cannes Film celebs there even. Try and remember the name Villa Almarin. Remember, Almarin is sort of German meaning sort of “Master Work”. Case proved? The key search term is Monarch Programming. Since eclipsed by Will Filer and the NSA. But Mengele the Master Programmer/Drone worker for who? Brits, Yanks? Privateers? Usual Suspects.
    My name is Tim Baber, and I didnt get to where I am by resorting to religion.
    (Old man laughs) Religion would put me right in the middle of “|their” favourite mileu of convenience to terrify, petrify and dominate. I know some tricks, but no one left to teach. Check out Amazon review by me for a 1940′s wartime book showing we were all very well advanced before Mengele, so just what is he so cocky about? Just the worst imaginable trauma? The fastest put you down in the West? (He decked me
    in about 5 seconds in a shop) He was simply disinhibited to allow him to survive the trauma he arranged like a puppeteer. IN 2002 at 93 his cheeks were heavily, massively lined with black lined wrinkles from nose to jowl. Google tells me that is caused by massive pain. Maybe his minders (Western Intel) had him on a merry go round? Maybe he insisted he had to suffer the trauma or someone else would use it against him. Franz KAFKA , you have a fan.

  50. Kandy says:

    Hi to every body, it’s my first pay a visit of this web site; this blog consists of amazing and really excellent material in favor of readers.

  51. Tim Baber says:

    Thank you for your interest. To see you are interested in mengele from a good point of view makes me
    want to shove some more stuff your way.

    This might contain some good?

    The pictures will vanish sorry.

    If it opens for you it contains many Mengele bookmarks I have made as I dip into alerts from Google alerts.
    Some will be rubbish, or connected with some project that has arisen from some media event or another.

    If it fails to open I will read up how to export my bookmarks. I have a similar number, over a hundred for
    regular intel stuff. Just sites I remembered to bookmark. I hope the file opens (Apple Mac bookmarks)

    But to remain sane I have very little on the esoteric side of things that you value as revealing insights into
    what may be going on. As such what I have is perhaps good for you to scan an eye over. Odin.

    Personally I think Will Filer and science a la NSA makes the religious model something from the past.
    If I feel my heart stop or “felt” in the context of intel needs and out of any medical reference point II sure as hell
    am not going to go looking for supernatural explanations. Yes, I know the devil has all the best tunes, that is
    why for my own safety when I am at the point of some metaphorical sword i laugh if I have the time and so far
    the coup de grace has been stayed…the stayed blow of esoteric tradition, (Tarot I think) but in reality me
    playing the joker to distract back! It also helps keep me out of “reputational trouble by being good…even if
    I could be denied life, motion, sense or what have you with a system so impressive I do not laugh for too long.

    Dodgy Xmas card at the bottom:
    In I am a child, children in art history…a source for choc box art for my beach hut websites, I now and then find
    Monarch mengele type weird motifs…here is one with about twelve Monarch Mind Controle motifs revealed.
    The main one is the yello ribbon…spelling “Oz” after the baum authored book and films that are said by
    others to be as full as fantasia with subliminal reminders. Last Xmas double issue of the BBC Radio and TV
    programme guides was full of such Monarch ‘triggers” or “reminders” and I complained to Lord Patten, the next
    many issues were innocent of same. But I guessed I could attributte about 20 images to deliberate promotion
    of the systemic use of motifs this Xmas issue.(not counting the actual programme content)

    WE need to know every detail of Mengele’s working in case we have to reverse engineer his compulsiveness. Cogs, wheels,
    hammers, …I wonder where theat idea came from?…as used in BBC Parliament channel to take care of the politicos?
    And then, the clues you must know abound, such as maybe the name Almarin, the use of the cabala, ..it might be in his
    “Master-Work” and even if Will Filer of the NSA on his psyops website makes this person of surely legitimate concern again
    Mengele as redundant to intel as religion need be now, Generations will have suffered thus, and we may need to excise
    many of the “noise” between programmes now, never mind the entropy or the programmes themselves.

    And so those caught up in this can feel free of anxiety, doubt, fear, guilt, blame or shame, to point out Mengele was in
    the service of others unnamed since 1940, and he lacked mens rea, will be to free those fearing retribution from the
    cascading waterfall of connections they were a part of.

    THere are loads of pictures on that website that seem a bit “symbolic” but I am not going to
    waste my life deciding if something is more dangerous to me or others if the amount
    of circumlocutions left or was it right becomes the biggest concern. As ever it is about the
    intent, and Monarch programming, Mengele even, could be a system that has ALREADY
    saved millions of lives. I have to say that, due to my sponsors being like Ravens in my room
    seeing if this ( reference to Lenore, how it used to be mediated) summation is going to wash.
    Nice to have a choice what I write. I hope this stuff adds to your armoury or ammunition as you
    praise the source of YOUR strength. Mine is Sam Fuller’s Park Row.

    Tim

  52. Tim Baber says:

    I was going to say one demonstration I chose to bypass was my heart “stopping” in my chair as I watched a guy out of my window view of the field, river and bridge ceremoniously nod to the west in a sort of ritual. Now, I can have no room for religion and if that guy was some sort of echo from the past when things were done that way more fool him. It is true I cannot tell between my virgin thoughts, post hypnotic influencing and Will Filer NSA type tecno rays of some sort.
    SRA did its job but now, well, I suppose the next plate will be sci-fi? I can tell you just before this started a man with a Sat aerial near my boundary (boundary measurement-quite normal) told me here was in the range of 8 sats, with a definition down to I think 8 or 12 mm. But I refuse to entertain all that SRA horror, religious, unease/anxiety/fear/ dissassociative heritage. It was enough my heart could be influenced…or stimulate, negate, to order, any muscle, nerve or communicative ability I guess. I have kept this out of the Mengele story since few can countenance suchlike. I have complained, I certainly have not offered any consent! But it is presumably my country and someone will want to be sure of primacy. So I am no threat. But I do seek a home for my story.
    It is just it gets a bit…hard to believe, as you will know, sigh. Medal or cash? Cash.

    • Woodward says:

      Tim. It sounds like you experience dissociative episodes.

      I am not trained to help folks with DID. I can find a link for you of an organization that can help.

      If you would like to write to me and tell me more about your experience, that would be fine. Because of my research into DR. Mengele, I would appreciate knowing more about the details of this experience if not too painful to recount. But don’t if it is too painful.

      Blessings to you.

      Doug

  53. Tom H Baker MD says:

    Doug: I am reading your book Decoding Doomsday for the third time.I never cease to be amazed at how well you write,the encyclopedic knowledge you have and the very tremendous research you have done.
    Tom Baker MD
    Frankfort,Ky
    6 Dec 2012

    • Woodward says:

      Tom that brightens my evening! I will need to update that book post 12-21-12. I assume you are keeping up with my posts? Working on three different presentations for the Future Congress in January. And feeling led to writing a book on the Mars subject as the centerpiece for “the lie”… Just finished listening to a Richard Hoagland video on YouTube… On Curiosity and its Stealth Mission. He suggests its discoveries will be the pivotal moment in which it is revealed that humankind first existed on Mars! Wow. Lots of folks have hinted at that. My next article will be on fictional literature that has suggested this.

      Blessings to you. Hope Kelli Beth is well.

  54. Kimberly says:

    Hello Doug,

    I have just happened upon your website and saw a few of your interviews online and am thankful to hear from someone who is coherent and rational as he is full of faith in our Lord and His Word. I am, quite frankly, amazed that I have finally found intelligent Christ-followers who are studying and preparing for the possibility, and likely probability of facing the Great Tribulation “not somehow but victoriously”.

    I wanted to share with you, in regards to the possibility of American being the “Daughter of Babylon”, that about 17 years ago, I was in deep study and meditation and lead to Habakkuk. Aside from the beautiful excerpts “The just shall live by faith” and “the Lord will make my feet like hind’s feet” I hadn’t spent much time in this little book.

    I opened to Habakkuk 2:1 and as I began to read…my jaw dropped. As a Native American myself–and having gotten my degree in History with a focus on Native American History–I was amazed at how accurately the ancient text described U.S. methodology for taking the continent from the original inhabitants. My tribe, and many others, readily accepted the Gospel and there are countless stories of many who were waiting for men from the rising sun to bring Creator’s truth in a book. I’m not trying to romanticize here either, several tribes took the normal human approach of defending their homeland to the death regardless of who or what was threatening. My point is, it seemed like this ancient prophecy was talking about America, down to the words used in the NKJV including “rampart” “proud” “pledges” “nations” (which is what we call our tribes) and “set his nest on high” (the Eagle as our national symbol).

    At the beginning of chapter 2, it says “for the vision is yet for an appointed time; but at the end it will speak and will not lie (unlike the hundreds of broken treaties, or lies, the government told Native nations); though it tarries, wait for it.”

    I realize this comment may come across a bit bitter or even “anti”, but I assure it is not. I am thankful to live in the freedom we enjoy here and my father, uncle and several cousins serve in our armed forces. But first and foremost I am a citizen of the Kingdom and my ultimate allegiance lies with Yeshua our Messiah. I just want to be awake and ready, lamp full of oil, watching for and discerning the signs of His imminent return.

    Blessings,
    Kimberly

    • Woodward says:

      Kimberly, thank you for such a thoughtful comment.

      I am part Native American (not sure which part, hopefully my heart!). My parents told me I was Chickasaw on my fathers side and Cherokee on my mothers side. Being from Oklahoma, it may be so. But I would have a hard time proving it. Except that I count myself a creative type and I’m sure that owes to the Native American heritage.

      I believe the pre-Trib rapture is the proper interpretation for many reasons and this doesn’t mean that America is God’s chosen nation as you (and I) point out. The sins of the US government are many, but the treatment of native Americans was so heinous it wasn’t easily surpassed in the 20th century. But the intentional immigration of Nazis into America engineered by US leaders truly was the equivalent of picking sides in the ultimate conflict between the spiritual kingdoms. The choice was made. There is no turning back.

      Actually as a nation we could repent. But it would require the President of the United Stats on behalf of the nation to fall to his knees and ask The Lord of Heaven to forgive our nation, it’s sins, and heal our country. I don’t see this happening no matter who wins the next election. I wish I was wrong.

      Thanks again for you thoughtfulness and taking the time to put down your good words.

      Doug

  55. Doug Krieger says:

    Doug – I think of Daniel’s role in the actual Babylon of his day and the pending destruction. Here’s a brother who’s heart was fully captured by the Lord and was a man for the purposes of God…praying toward Jerusalem each and every day and many times; yet, his life was a testimony to Babylon’s leadership at the highest level. While other left Babylon to go back to Jerusalem while Daniel was still living during the Persian takeover – yet the Lord kept Daniel smack dab in the middle of the Gentile World Powers. I know of some who insist that we “flee Babylon” akin to Rev. 18:4 even stating that we must leave the USA – I am not persuaded that this should or will be our posture until the rapture occurs and that Rev. 18:4 – “Come out of her my people” is by the mighty hand of the Lord and not by our doing – i.e., the rapture? Israel couldn’t deliver herself from Egypt – what makes us think we can escape “Babylon” when, quite frankly, it’s all around us in any event – even though we’re living in the heart of its influences…I think of the defeat of the armies of Israel at Ai because of the “Babylonian garment” and then the subsequent stoning, etc. The world – business, government the military, education – all are desperate to see the “Christ-Life” – we, the members of His One Body possess the “Testimony of Jesus” which is the “spirit of prophecy” – that’s what Daniel did and was, without compromise – the latter part of Daniel was written when he, like John the Apostle in the revelation was nigh 90 years of age …. so there’s hope for some of us old guys! Bless, and continue to be a witness and testimony the midst of her!

    Bro. Doug

    • Tim says:

      Israel could not deliver herself from Egypt, but there was One who both could and did deliver her. So your point falls flat, unfortunately.
      Revelation speaks of the church fleeing from Judaea in the day of the Lord’s Judgement upon the earth; “pray that your flight be neither in the winter nor on the sabbath day”. This date would fit perfectly with 21st March 2013.
      Isaiah 16 v 4; “Let my outcasts dwell with you, Moab, be you a covert to them from the face of the spoiler”. Moab is known today as Jordan.
      It seems that there will be a latter flight.
      Isaiah again, ch 26 vv 20-1; “Come my people, enter you into your chambers, and shut your doors about you, hide yourself as it were for a little moment until the indignation be overpast. For behold the Lord comes out of His place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity….”
      There is no rapture. The word does not exist in scripture. The idea dates from the last century and hinges on the dreams of a teenage Scottish girl, Margaret McDonald; and was taken up by JN Darby, of the Plymouth Brethren. The great delusion has subsequently infected most of Christendom.
      Scripture speaks of a place of safety. There, God’s people will be miraculously preserved through the day of Tribulation, soon to come upon the world like a snare, and a thief in the night.

      • Woodward says:

        Tim, thanks for your comment. I bet a few of the community of readers might take exception, but I do love the scripture quotes and do strongly agree that the Lord protects those who are the Apple of his eye. I may reply in more detail when time allows.

      • Woodward says:

        Tim I hadn’t responded before. Rapturae is not in the Bible but harpazo is. The notion of being snatched up, plucked up, snapped up, is clearly intended. Jerome used rapturae in the Vulgate, the Latin translation. The word is less important. In other words, if the term had been coined in English ‘the Harpaze’ instead if Rapture, it would be equivalent. The concept is biblical. The timing is debated, not the event being biblical.
        The idea the rapture was invented by a young woman’s vision is historically inaccurate. Darby spoke of the Rapture in a letter pre dating the MacDonald incident by I believe it was four years earlier. See my book Black Sun Blood Moon for considerable discussion on the timing of the Rapture.
        Regardless, as you conclude, The Lord will preserve us!
        Thanks for your comment.

      • Woodward says:

        Oh, my excerpt from Black Sun on my site provides this information. See Book Excerpts.

      • Mojo says:

        The word “Bible” doesn’t appear in the Bible. Does this mean the Bible is un-biblical because the word “Bible” does not appear in the Bible? Margaret McDonald was Amillenial in her eschatology. Have you actually read her alleged prophecy? Furthermore it is hypocritical for Amillinielists to lecture us about our theological fathers (Darby, Scofield etc) when they base virtually all of their eschatology on the teachings of that heretic Augustine. Augustine taught the worship of the Virgin Mary, that infant baptism was necessary for salvation, created Replacement theology which led to the slaughter of millions of Jewish men, women, and children, and was one of the founding fathers of the Roman Catholic Church. As The Lord Jesus said “why do you look at the plank in your brither’s eye when behold there is a plank in your own!”

  56. Tom H Baker MD says:

    Hello,Doug:
    I just read your prolog to “Power Quest” Book 2. It sounds exciting.I plan to buy it.
    It certainly gives one things to think about.
    I trust this finds you in good health.
    Blessings,
    Tom

  57. Doug Krieger says:

    Doug – this is Doug – To say the very least, I am thoroughly enjoying your perspectives on a whole plethora of front – especially those related to America’s role in Bible prophecy – ours is a bit of a lonely trail these days and, fraught with severe criticism from well-meaning but generally speaking, brethren who take an affront to what appears to be an anti-patriotic stance when it comes to America.

    Notwithstanding – we must press on with the Truth as we see it in Christ – for the Testimony of Jesus IS the spirit of prophecy. It is the very essence of that declaration that allows for the perseverance of the saints in the latter days.

    May the Lord enable you to have a wide outreach and continue to acclaim the prophetic truth found in the Scripture of Truth.

    Blessing in Him -

    Doug Krieger
    http://www.the-tribulation-network.com

    • Woodward says:

      Thanks Doug. I love our country and believe there are millions of wonderful people here. I wouldnt lve anywhere else. But I believe our country’s largest institutions both public and private don’t operate on the same level as most individuals in personal relationships. Even corrupt leaders may behave well when acting on a personal level. As Jesus said even the evil give good gifts to their children. But as leaders they choose to do unethical and often evil things. This is the key point of disparity and where preaching and teaching needs to focus. What we do as individual believers must be transferred into how we act as leaders in our businesses, government jobs, the ministry, and the military. That is where the rubber meets the road. This is also, to me, how we must attempt to distinguish our criticism. What do you think?

  58. Jan Harkwell says:

    Heard you today with Stan Monteith – excellent interview – plan to order
    a couple of books. Thanks

  59. Eric W. says:

    I’ll echo what Bob said. Excellent update all the way around.

  60. Bob Handley says:

    Hi Doug: Your website is terrific…the color scheme attracts your attention which is good. Having large letters makes it much easier to read. The left and right margin display makes it very attractive too. If I think of anything else later, I will let you know. Received Grey Wolf and The Real Men in Black today. Will give you my impressions when finished reading. Having a “Leave a Reply” space will give you the opportunity to receive feedback. It makes it much more easier than clicking on a button that’s usual hard to find. Keep up the good work for the Lord. The Lord bless you…..Bob

  61. Woodward says:

    Please do… have anyone and everyone plug in their email into my subscription slot on the right hand side of the page. Love to have you aboard!

  62. Woodward says:

    Thanks you Harold. I appreciate all good input and encouragement. Blessings to you.

  63. Leonard Belisle says:

    “Because you have kept My command to persevere (in your FAITH), I also will keep you from the hour of trial (THE Tribulation) which shall come upon the whole world, to test those (Left-Behind) who dwell on the earth.” (Rev 3:10)
    MARANATHA!

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